Saul Alvarez vs. James Kirkland

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  • Ko King 212
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    #61
    Originally posted by mathed
    Kirkland is 5'-9" and 154 lbs and Canelo is 5'-9" and 154 lbs.

    Both guy are pretty big but Canelo is a thick guy, he could be fighting at 160 easily just as Kirkland could but I think Canelo is a better boxer than Kirkland is. If they fight, Kirkland does well early on but gets broken down by body shots and hooks by the 6th round, suffering several knockdowns from attempting to walk through Canelo's punches. That might work against a drained Angulo who underestimated you but not a strong, solid kid that doesn't seem to care who he fights.
    Lol what? Hilarious......

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    • 4Corners
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      #62
      Originally posted by mathed
      Vanes is like a C+/B- fighter to me. He is thin, powerless, and eats punches routinely- Alvarez snaps him in half lie a twig....KO within 5 rds. Vanes won't take the challenge if it were to be presented.
      Vanes would fight Alvarez. He just won't fight anyone besides an Alvarez or Cotto, to get a big payday. He didn't want to risk it with Angulo, who was one of the most feared guys in boxing at the time.

      With that said, Alvarez has been avoiding a defense against Vanes for like 8-9 months now. I think he KO's Vanes as well, and Vanes will be exposed badly. But, Alvarez needs to step his compeititon up now, and Vanes would be a solid step up, compared to a past prime Cintron, Gomez, Rhodes, etc. If Canelo really wants a Floyd Mayweather fight in 2012 or 2013, fight Vanes in April. Than, fight the Kirkland-Molina winner in August/September.

      If Canelo beat Vanes, we'd learn A LOT more about him, and more people would buy in if he beat him handily. Than, we'd really get to see what Canelo is really made of if he fought Kirkland.

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      • mathed
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        #63
        Originally posted by Ko King 212
        Lol what? Hilarious......
        For real.....too many people are making Kirkland out to be some unstoppable beast- the truth is,he isn't that at all. He is a muscular dude who walks people down and pummels them against the ropes. He almost lost last time out in the first round if you'll remember. What happens when he starts taking massive damage to the body? Is he still going to be able to throw those crucial haymakers with full force?

        Canelo is much better than people seem to want to give him cred for but that's alright, as time goes by, he will grow on people. My point is that Kirland would not be beating up on some small kid......Alvarez is just as big, if not bigger than Kirkland is and he has better boxing skill than Kirkland.

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        • deliveryman
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          #64
          I think Canelo has the superior technique, defense and speed, which would win him this type of fight.

          Alvarez by 7th round TKO.

          I think Alvarez vs Cotto would be a much more competitive fight. With Cotto winning a clear decision while taking some bombs along the way.
          Last edited by deliveryman; 01-29-2012, 01:01 PM.

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          • ИATAS
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            #65
            if canelo can't finish Kirkland in the firsround he's done. Kirkland gets stronger as the fight goes on. he's tense in the first, hense all of the knockdowns he's suffered in his career were in the first, he's never been hurt past round 2.

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            • Evil Abed
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              #66
              Originally posted by ИATAS206
              if canelo can't finish Kirkland in the firsround he's done. Kirkland gets stronger as the fight goes on. he's tense in the first, hense all of the knockdowns he's suffered in his career were in the first, he's never been hurt past round 2.
              He was buzzed by Julio late. But I agree with you.

              You have to finish him in the first round. I also favor Kirkland in this fight right now.

              Canelo could convince me otherwise with a impressive performance vs a puncher.

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              • Mr. Philadel
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                #67
                Originally posted by Bushbaby
                Kirkland stops Canelo dead inside of 6. Lets keep it real here. Canelo is a pampered protected little redhead.
                spot on!!!!

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