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  • #51
    Kirkland by mugging. He would have to face 18 eliminators before getting to Canelo.

    Also Canelo is heavy handed. He is not a power puncher.

    Andrade last fight was garbage.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
      I just cant see someone as defensively open as Kirkland beating Canelo. James can ****, is quick, fit, brings the ruckus every time out and is all heart but his chin is poor, he is open and is a basic fighter no special effects. Cant see him winning at all but hey its the type of fight both guys should be having, Lets get it made and find out!
      Canelo gets hit too. However he hasn't fought anyone with enough pop to test that chin.

      To put it simply, if Canelo was that good, he wouldn't be pampered & spoon fed. A champ that hasn't even fought on the elite level yet? Sounds suspect to me.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
        I would say I want that fight one year from now to build it properly, but if they both win it would be a fun little scrap at the end of the year.

        I certainly think Canelo will fall back especially in the beginning, it would be ****** for him to just stand his ground he should use his boxing skills which he has which are superior to Kirkland's but he should slowly be looking to push Kirkland back as the fight progresses because once Kirkland starts going back the fight would essentially be over.

        I think Canelo should be the favorite but could understand liking Kirkland and depending on what I see in their next fights I might change my mind, either way the underdog is certainly very live.
        This is a good fight now, no need to wait a year. Promoters put off fights to " build them up" or "let them simmer" and in reality they just want to milk more money from their fighters and take easier fights and alot of the time it backfires anyway. As a fan and not a promoter id rather see the fights when they should be made, not a year later.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Ko King 212 View Post
          Kirkland by mugging. He would have to face 18 eliminators before getting to Canelo.

          Also Canelo is heavy handed. He is not a power puncher.

          Andrade last fight was garbage.
          Canelo's last fight was garbage too..so was the one before that...and the one before that one...

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          • #55
            Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
            Canelo can ****, look what he did to Baldy... His power is evident imo. Matthew Hatton is a tough kid

            I havent actually seen Andrade fight beforee, any key fights u recommend?
            Baldy wasn't in shape and he seemed to take a DIVE..

            Since when is Mathew Hatton all that tough??

            c'mon now

            Ya'll said he would blow Hatton away...

            Andrade...

            .....beat Grady Brewer with ease...Grady was just coming off a KO over hot prospect Fernando Guerrero..

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            • #56
              Originally posted by AlwaysOnTop View Post
              Canelo's last fight was garbage too..so was the one before that...and the one before that one...
              I dont disagree with you there.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
                I just cant see someone as defensively open as Kirkland beating Canelo. James can ****, is quick, fit, brings the ruckus every time out and is all heart but his chin is poor, he is open and is a basic fighter no special effects. Cant see him winning at all but hey its the type of fight both guys should be having, Lets get it made and find out!
                Canelo is just as "defensively open" as Kirkland..

                Canelo was GASSED after 4 rounds with Cintron's slow-motion ass...

                That's a serious issue..

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  IMO Kirland stops Canelo.

                  If Kirkland beats Molina he would have to beat Vanes Martirosyan as well to get a shot at Canelo. Yea I know, I know...It's BS. But, that's what the WBC is ordering.
                  I wish Alvarez would just fight Vanes in April. It'd be his most legit fight so far, and we'd learn more about him if he were to fight a young, prime, contender. His best win is still Cintron, which is why a fight with Floyd is only a C+/ B- at the higest, to me.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by ThePhantom5 View Post
                    From what I've seen I would give James a slight edge.

                    Canelo has yet to fight a bigger stronger guy.

                    That's Kirkland.
                    Kirkland is 5'-9" and 154 lbs and Canelo is 5'-9" and 154 lbs.

                    Both guy are pretty big but Canelo is a thick guy, he could be fighting at 160 easily just as Kirkland could but I think Canelo is a better boxer than Kirkland is. If they fight, Kirkland does well early on but gets broken down by body shots and hooks by the 6th round, suffering several knockdowns from attempting to walk through Canelo's punches. That might work against a drained Angulo who underestimated you but not a strong, solid kid that doesn't seem to care who he fights.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by 4CornersKid View Post
                      I wish Alvarez would just fight Vanes in April. It'd be his most legit fight so far, and we'd learn more about him if he were to fight a young, prime, contender. His best win is still Cintron, which is why a fight with Floyd is only a C+/ B- at the higest, to me.
                      Vanes is like a C+/B- fighter to me. He is thin, powerless, and eats punches routinely- Alvarez snaps him in half lie a twig....KO within 5 rds. Vanes won't take the challenge if it were to be presented.

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