Andre Ward got KNOCKED DOWN!!!

[{BrownBomber}]

Pac dropped Toney in sparring, twice!
*Contact me for video evidence*

Morales has a better chin than Toney?

[Mech.]

I said from DAY ONE that Andre (and his long time trainer) was overhyping HIMSELF (Claiming he would go down as the greatest fighter who ever lived. The amaterurs, especially NOW with the computer scoring, mean NOTHING in predicting pro success. They are matching Andre up very carefully and not like a guy who they think is a future superstar. He started doing the same old played out trash talking before a couple of his recent fights and that, to me, is a turn off. The last thing we need is another kid who talks trash, especially one who at the same time tries to present himself as a religious type of person. He ran his mouth off before fights against limited opposition and now he is learning early on in his pro career that fans in the pro game arent as sympathetic as they are when you are an amateur kid. You got dropped twice and now you are going to hear more insults and berating from fans than you did in your whole amateur career combined. Welcome to the pros, Andre!!

lol.Nice Post Ice Man.

[xzworks]

Man....

Andre Ward never trash talked anybody...

Your talking out of your ass...
You said Lacy doesn't have power.....

Also, you talk like you know everything and that you are always right...

Apparently, all your talk is full of BIASED talk..

In his second fight he fought a guy that was 7-0..
and after that you said he needs to step up his game..

Andre Ward is the truth..

This is just a experience...

show some respect to someone who is a pro boxer/trainer dude. so u can get respect too when you became a pro.

[El Jesus]

show some respect to someone who is a pro boxer/trainer dude. so u can get respect too when you became a pro.

being a pro doesnt give anyone an excuse to just say what they want unchecked.

[dafish298]

give the guy a break. A win is a win. He is still undefeated, and why he may have a suspect chin..it is not known for sure until he gets KO'd. He had alot of heart to get up from the knockdown and go on to win the fight.

[Drunken Cat]

Isn't it funny everytime a prospect who was higherly regarded before gets knocked down, everyone jumps on his back and says "Oh his ****, I knew it before anyway."

Its better he faces some adversity early in his career than say when he is fighing for a title AKA Kermit Cintron style.

Too me its funny when these networks and promoters try to shove some guy down our throats who turns out to be garbage and he gets exposed. Maybe this will allow some other fighters with more proffesional ability to step into the limelight (or maybe Ward will have to actually earn his place now in the pros). I was at this fight and I believed Ward lost rounds 4, 5, and 6. When you add the Knockdown, he loses on my card. I wasnt the only one who thought so, the crowd booed very loud at the decision. The score of 59-56 was pure unadulturated bull**** and it was obvious that the guy with the cash behind him got the nod (not saying he def. lost, but that score was simply outrageous. Ward was not the same after the Knockdown by any streatch).

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

FROM THA GREATEST.... "Man....
Andre Ward never trash talked anybody...
Your talking out of your ass...
You said Lacy doesn't have power.....
Also, you talk like you know everything and that you are always right...
Apparently, all your talk is full of BIASED talk..
In his second fight he fought a guy that was 7-0..
and after that you said he "

FROM ICE: Listen Junior. I said Lacy doesn't have power? I said he wasnt a Hearns, Jackson, Shavers puncher and that is FACT. I "talk like I know everything??" LOL Look little guy, I think 130 pro and amateur fights and a world title chance gives me a certain freedom to express some insight, aiight ?? I have no biased talk..I say what it is and if it is something that goes against what YOU and your experience think thats just the way it is. Let metell you something u dont know....Boxing is a business and Andre has been matched CAREFULLY and now with the way his fights have gone they will match him EVEN MORE CAREFULLY. There are specific rasons for this and if u had educated eyes you would see it and recognize it. Andre never trash talked anybody? I remember before the fight he got wobbled badly in he trash talked Kenny Kost. DEFINITELY he did. I was surprised at him at the time.

[RAESAAD]

Lacy hits harder than Hearns ever did....IMO just from what I have seen but I have not been hit by either so can't say for sure and know your experience but just disagree on you on that.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

RAESAAD... Being 100 percent real I dont think ANYBODY in boxing would agree with you on that. Hearns VICIOUSLY knocked guys UNCONCIOUS, good fighters like Cuevas, Duran and Shuler. Lacy hasn't ever done that to a top tier opponent. Tommy hit gus with ONE shot and they were OUT. Give respect to what Hearns did...there is NO comparison between his power and Jeff Lacy's

[RAESAAD]

RAESAAD... Being 100 percent real I dont think ANYBODY in boxing would agree with you on that. Hearns VICIOUSLY knocked guys UNCONCIOUS, good fighters like Cuevas, Duran and Shuler. Lacy hasn't ever done that to a top tier opponent. Tommy hit gus with ONE shot and they were OUT. Give respect to what Hearns did...there is NO comparison between his power and Jeff Lacy's

OK well I will take you word on that I was basing it on the few fights like a handful of Hearns fights when he was at a lower weight......I mean Hearns/Lacy at 175 who would be the harder hitter sure Hearns made 147 and 154 guys look foolish with that power but never did higher than 160. I also think Lacy has many more years left to prove to be an even better KO puncher so I guess time will tell but I still stand by I doubt Hearns hits harder at 168 or 175.