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  • #11
    Originally posted by SoggyLungs View Post
    rico ramos was just gun shy against rigondeaux...but i think donaire beats rigondeaux. all donaire needs to do is land one hard and clean shot.. if donaire rattles rigo even just once I think that's enough to take away rigondeaux's confidence just like in the cordoba fight. rigondeaux will need to have a lot of heart if he is going to face a top caliber opponent like donaire..
    "JUST gun shy"
    this is a professional world champion defending his title you're referring to not a first bout amateur. fair enough he wasn't a very good champ but gun shy as an excuse? he was **** scared to throw because he knew what would happen. and what did happen? as soon as he threw he got done in.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
      That "half-assed jab" isn't really a jab, it's a measuring stick Rigo uses and he does to have the distance and also to hope to lure his opponent to strike. So I don't like how the author wrote that. It's NOT intended to land at all.

      And great counter punching, defensive fighters will almost ALWAYS take away offensive fighters rhythm, so another bad example (see pac vs jmm, hopkins vs tito, etc etc etc).

      If Nonito was out of rhythm against his last opponent, Rigo would even be more of a challenge with his fantastic speed, reflexes and body attack.

      Now, that isn't to say Rigo clearly beats Donaire or anything like that. Honestly it's a tough fight to call. But to say Rigo isn't in Donaires class is an absurd statement imo. Maybe as far as being a star and draw power goes, but not as far as boxing skills. It's a great matchup any way you slice it.
      agreed.
      and i think if anything was half-assed it was the article.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by brick wall View Post
        rigo has to take some more challenging fights to at least build a decent drawing power. let's face it, donaire already commands a sizable fight purse...you can't just put him against an unpopular opponent and expect to make money. you only do that for tune-up fights like when donaire fought narvaez coming from a lay-off. but even that fight was a big disappointment to everyone including top rank when narvaez refused to fight. they were expecting to build donaire's star power and the opposite happened.

        donaire-rigo at this point does not make business sense and top rank will not do it...reality bites.
        It doesn't need to, Rigo can be the "sacrificial lamb". At 31 he doesn't offer much to Bob anyway, he's been fighting little cubs, but once they give that lion, it's a one way trip back cuba.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck View Post
          It doesn't need to, Rigo can be the "sacrificial lamb". At 31 he doesn't offer much to Bob anyway, he's been fighting little cubs, but once they give that lion, it's a one way trip back cuba.
          lol what do you mean with sacrificial lamb? a fixed fight?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
            I don't think it's a good fight I think it's an ok fight. I understand from a business perspective it's pretty good money, arce has a bit of a following and it will be entertaining since arce comes to fight (for however long it lasts). It's a fan friendly fight I guess is what I'm saying.

            Now, as far as fighting the best goes, hell no, arce isn't even even a top 10 fighter at 122, so obviously there are much better fights out there. But I get it.

            What I hope, which I doubt will happen, but it would be great if Donaire takes care of Vazquez/Arce, meanwhile Rigo beats another solid opponent, and maybe they can fight at the end of the year. Slim chance that can happen though.
            I hope you don't think Ramos was/is a solid opponent? How can someone get totally outclassed by Shimoda, throw a "Hail Mary" and become solid, not happening chief.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by frosty-g View Post
              "JUST gun shy"
              this is a professional world champion defending his title you're referring to not a first bout amateur. fair enough he wasn't a very good champ but gun shy as an excuse? he was **** scared to throw because he knew what would happen. and what did happen? as soon as he threw he got done in.
              He (Rico) said the same thing about Shimoda who was whipping his a$$ until the KO..... Rico isn't ready for the elite level and thats ok he's 24 still young.... But I've seen a few of ur post on the subject and I may be wrong but it seems like Rico to u is held n the same regard as a Montiel or Vic.... Not to mention others but my ? to u is how r u so hyped because Rigo beat a man he was supposed to beat but **** on Donaire who by far has fought the better comp???

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              • #17
                Originally posted by brick wall View Post
                lol what do you mean with sacrificial lamb? a fixed fight?
                The writer is right, Rigo is nowhere in Nonito's class, a fight with Donaire would be like throwing him to the wolves. His tecnique is bad, he has to throw the left with all his might because he has absolutely no power in his right hand, and I agree with the writer, it's a half-ass punch. I would love to see this fight, just so Nonito can tap dat ass.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Fvck LamarSmith View Post
                  I love it.

                  Donaire was considered the best at 112, despite the best fighters fighting each other and him only beating one top guy.

                  Same **** at 115.

                  then at 118, the best have been fighting each other, and outside of Montiel, Donaire fought no one there as well.

                  Flash forward to 122, Rigondeaux is clearly one of the best, if not the best, and will leave that division having only fought Vazquez (****in joke of a fight) and Arce (another joke of a fight) while the boxing world will consider him the best.

                  Donaire, while talented, is the king of fantasy fights. There is so much "well Donaire would KO this guy anyway, so there is no point in fighting) talk in every division he has been that it's really put me off to this guy.

                  Even Floyd's hoe @ss actually got in the ring and fought top names, despite his ducking, to atleast warrant him praise. Donaire and his fans are pathetic.
                  And Rigo has beaten ATG's. What's up with all these Donaire haters coming out of nowhere.I understand Rigo is a brother and getting all the LOVE. But damn, what did Donaire do to warrant all these haterism?
                  The kid just moved up to 122 and Rigo has not even moved up a division.I bet ya he moves up he is going to fight bums like he been doing in his 10 fight career so far.

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                  • #19
                    Who is ranked in the top 2 at 122? Oh that's right, Rigondeaux! So everyone should STFU with this talk that Rigo is not in Donaire's class. As of now, Donaire is not ranked at 122. Let's see him take on Vazquez, which for those criticizing Rico Ramos at least Ramos was coming off a WIN that earned him a title and not coming off KO loss for crying out loud.

                    So why is it that Rigondeaux gets criticized for beating a titlist (regardless if you think Ramos was good or not) while Donaire is fighting the guy that just got KO'd by Arce and has no title, nor is he ranked in the top 10??

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck View Post
                      The writer is right, Rigo is nowhere in Nonito's class, a fight with Donaire would be like throwing him to the wolves. His tecnique is bad, he has to throw the left with all his might because he has absolutely no power in his right hand, and I agree with the writer, it's a half-ass punch. I would love to see this fight, just so Nonito can tap dat ass.
                      i still think rigo presents a big risk for donaire. he got knock out power with really fast hands and he's a defense-first fighter which will somewhat diminish donaire's explosiveness. i'm not giving him any edge though against donaire...he simply is the underdog if they ever fight.

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