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Originally posted by JaNnO
i take that, harold saw manny winning by 5 points. the same way the other judge saw it. larry merchant had pac winning a close fight.
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His scorecard is not the end all be all of boxing. He is actually wrong alot of the time. Also, Harold has access to resources offical judges don't, like Compubox and expert opinions from Roy Jones, Goerge Foreman, Manny Steward ect. all this can have an effect on the perception of the fight. -
all i was sayin is manny is not one dimensional like what some peepz think.Originally posted by cheech306Comment
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i completely understand that...i was just showing harold's scorecards to tracy who thought otherwise...btw harold is considered by many as a boxing expert, with judging as his specialty. hbo won't pay him for his services if he was a bummer.Originally posted by zoo
Last edited by JaNnO; 12-31-2004, 06:06 PM.Comment
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I understand that he is an expert, I don't question him on that, that doesn't mean he is impervious from making some bad calls. Like he thought that Winky Wright won round one in the rematch against Mosley. I'm sorry, but that was a bad call, round one was Shane's all the way. In a close fight those one or two round differences can having him calling the wrong man the winner.Originally posted by JaNnOComment
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thats a 17-year old Manny Pacquiao fighting his 12 fight in 12 months...this guy has no fear even when he was but a kid...
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thats a 17-year old Manny Pacquiao fighting his 12 fight in 12 months...this guy really has no fear even when he was just a kid...Originally posted by cheech306Comment
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so? no fear is bad for u sometimes and thats a great example right there.Originally posted by lesterprettyboyComment
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Originally posted by cheech306
It's been good 40+ times and really bad twice.
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So many discussions, so many exchange of good ideas, pro JMM, pro Pacman, and after all is said and done - we will all be looking to a very fiery and exiting rematch. Now, remember guys: JMM still have to sign the contract. No matter how hard he trains, and no matter how eager we want the rematch to happen, the rematch won't happen unless JMM sign on the dotted line.Comment
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Marquez Wants Nothing Left To Chance.
By: James Blears
WBA and IBF Featherweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez initially allowed his natural testosterone or Mexican machismo to get the better of boxing common sense, in his first encounter with Philipino phenomenon Manny Pacquiao.
The result was that in a torrid first round, he got well and truly socked. It took three painful visits to the canvass for Marquez to grasp the fundamental essential, that in these particular circumstances, his abilities were far more suited to the role of matador. And that trying to bull his way through Pacquiao’s murderous lefts, had placed him on the horns of an imminent dilemma. Once this realization had struck home- in more ways than one, he managed to gradually claw his way back to achieve a draw.
Having clung to his titles by a proverbial whisker, Marquez is determined to avoid the triple whammy this time round, and to lick Pacquiao in their much anticipated re-match showdown in Las Vegas on February 26th.
No Christmas break for Juan Manuel. On Christmas Day, he drove his gun metal gray Mini Cooper through the virtually deserted streets of Mexico City to the Gilberto Roman Gym for a tough workout. Needless to say, not many other boxers were around. Their cheer was comfortably elsewhere.
Juan started his training in early November and has been steadily increasing its tempo ever since.
Juan circles and stalks his elusively etched mental image of Manny in the ring, bobbing and weaving, guarding from an imaginary all out assault from the left. As he warms to his task, a trainer enters the ring and holds up the big pad for Juan to pepper and thunder. The vibration from the jarring jolts snap the trainer’s head back and whiplashes his stocky body.
Manager Ignacio Beristain who’s hunched ringside sagely advises Juan to employ a lighter touch and to practice a variety of straight rights, doubled up the body shots while sneaking in a few sparingly chosen but well placed right hooks.
After six rugged four minute rounds, Juan vaults the ropes and starts perpetual punch avoidance practice, around the small frankfurter shaped bag. Only once does he momentarily allows his forehead to rest against it, when time is called. This brush stroke leaves a smear print of sweat which stands out darkly against its dry leathery surface.
Juan confides: “This time I’m going to be faster, stronger and more focused. At this moment I’m engrossed in gym work and physical strength routines. I’m going to start sparring in the first days of January. I’m absolutely determined to leave nothing to chance in my build up. In particular, I’m concentrating on more speed and honing my reflexes.”
Starting this weekend Juan is going to go high altitude training in the rigid snow capped Nevado de Toluca mountains. He’ll be naturally pumping up his red cell blood count through a tough physical regime at four thousand five hundred meters above sea level. He’ll be doing this every Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
Juan is also gearing his mindset to strategy. He explained: “Manny is obviously a very handy two handed fighter, but his left is more potent. So we’re concentrating more on that side. Our strategy is for Manny not to connect cleanly with his left.”
Ignacio Beristain says that he’s taking with a ******* pinch of salt, reports that Manny is taking it easy and isn’t training at full tilt, saying that the several times he himself has seen Manny train, he’s given his absolute all. Beristain points out, each to his own, but Juan’s training program is extremely thorough, with an absolute commitment to complete physical fitness and conditioning.
Juan says: “I’m working towards a condition which will give me the capability to fight at full capacity for the whole twelve rounds throwing meaningful punches from the very start to finish, because I think it’s going to be a war, all over again. And it’s going to be even better than our first fight. I’m going to be fully concentrating and fully physically prepared.
Turning to the swirling rumors about Manny’s supposed reluctance to knuckle down to a full work schedule until after the start of the New Year, Juan grinned: “ Manny well knows the difference between preparing three weeks and fifteen or twenty weeks. He knows what he’s got to do. I’m absolutely sure he’s also preparing very well. It’s a crucial fight for both of us.
“My message for Manny is exactly the same as last time, namely prepare well. Because I’m coming into this fight mentally and physically ready for a better fight than the first and I’m going to win. “Comment
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