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  • #91
    Originally posted by JaNnO
    yes i believe it was not mandatory, but the judge was somehow confused by the commission on how to call on the 4-point dedection for the 3 kd's just before the fight. the judge after the fight admitted that pacman could have won the fight if he scored it correctly, which implied that he really saw it a 10-6 round if it wasn't the commission's conflicting notes about the rule. harold letterman had pac winning by 3 points ( i think).
    I dont remember Harold having him winning, not at all...that doesnt mean I'm right though. But, I'm certain that he scored that round a 10-7, for what it's worth

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    • #92
      Originally posted by JaNnO
      no not you, just some jmm fans.
      That would be me and yes, he did appear slightly one demensional to me...without that left hand, he didnt seem to have alot to offer, not compared to the skills that JMM displayed. But, I didnt say it to offend or belittle...I've always said that if he'd improve on his technique he'd be hell on wheels! and I stand by that

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      • #93
        Originally posted by tracylee
        Yeah, with the pressure he was under, he would admit anything to shut people up...you gotta admit, quiet a fuss was made over a point! But, who's to say that it was a **** up, when its a judgement call? I can see scoring it a 10=7, easily! So I dont consider it a **** up at all; and if it had been reversed I'd say the same.
        That poor judge had everybody and their mama coming down on him over a ****** point; while the other judge sat back with his rediculous score and nobody bothered him'
        Hell, I'd admit to all kinds of **** with that kind of heat, and it makes me wonder what he REALLY, REALLY thinks of that score, and that round
        when people crucify a judge over a POINT like that, it just makes a tough job tougher!
        it was the same judge who said he really ****ed up...here's what he said:

        "I just screwed up," said Burt Clements, one of the three judges in the Pacquiao-Marquez fight, who said he should have written 10-6 instead of 10-7 in favor of Pacquiao in the first round. "I feel badly because I dropped the ball, plainly and simply. You can make a lot of arguments that it was a close fight. But that's immaterial. The fact is I dropped the ball."

        i'm with you, it was the two judges with two disparate results who should do the explaining.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by JaNnO
          it was the same judge who said he really ****ed up...here's what he said:

          "I just screwed up," said Burt Clements, one of the three judges in the Pacquiao-Marquez fight, who said he should have written 10-6 instead of 10-7 in favor of Pacquiao in the first round. "I feel badly because I dropped the ball, plainly and simply. You can make a lot of arguments that it was a close fight. But that's immaterial. The fact is I dropped the ball."

          i'm with you, it was the two judges with two disparate results who should do the explaining.
          Like I said, heat, pressure, Jesus, it was a mess, and enough to make a grown man cry!!! But, we dont know for certain that that is how he really feels...not at all. It doesnt matter now though, and I'll be so glad when the rematch happens!

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          • #95
            Originally posted by tracylee
            That would be me and yes, he did appear slightly one demensional to me...without that left hand, he didnt seem to have alot to offer, not compared to the skills that JMM displayed. But, I didnt say it to offend or belittle...I've always said that if he'd improve on his technique he'd be hell on wheels! and I stand by that
            i wasn't thinking of you when i said that... so soree!

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            • #96
              Originally posted by JaNnO
              i wasn't thinking of you when i said that... so soree!
              Hey, hey, you have absolutely NO reason to apologize to me...I dont take **** personal like that. And, I did say that about him, so you would only have been saying the truth if you had meant me! When it's true, with facts to back it up, then its fair game...no worries at all!

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              • #97
                I believe that Pac showed us his absolute best in his first bout with Marquez. In the rematch, we'll see a carbon-copy of Pac in every way, except that there could be some additional desperation when he realizes he's not able to repeat his performance of Fight #1. It is a fact, not an insult, that Pac is extremely one-dimensional, so Marquez has a definite advantage in knowing EXACTLY what Pac will bring in the rematch. PacMan's training for the rematch might include some additional work on movement and possibly some varaiations on a combo or two, but we all know he'll resort back to his very predictable head movement and big left hand, especially when frustration sets-in from not being able to connect eary like he did in Fight #1. Pac's success is in his left hand when facing that first-tier Mexican chin, and he knows it.

                So, the difference in the rematch will not be PacMan's style. The difference will be Marquez, who will counter the **** out a guy who is a BIG puncher with questionable boxing skill.

                The rematch will be war, no question, but it will be Marquez by convincing UD or late stoppage. Then we can all stop questioning if it was 10-7 or 10-6.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Munn
                  I believe that Pac showed us his absolute best in his first bout with Marquez. In the rematch, we'll see a carbon-copy of Pac in every way, except that there could be some additional desperation when he realizes he's not able to repeat his performance of Fight #1. It is a fact, not an insult, that Pac is extremely one-dimensional, so Marquez has a definite advantage in knowing EXACTLY what Pac will bring in the rematch. PacMan's training for the rematch might include some additional work on movement and possibly some varaiations on a combo or two, but we all know he'll resort back to his very predictable head movement and big left hand, especially when frustration sets-in from not being able to connect eary like he did in Fight #1. Pac's success is in his left hand when facing that first-tier Mexican chin, and he knows it.

                  So, the difference in the rematch will not be PacMan's style. The difference will be Marquez, who will counter the **** out a guy who is a BIG puncher with questionable boxing skill.

                  The rematch will be war, no question, but it will be Marquez by convincing UD or late stoppage. Then we can all stop questioning if it was 10-7 or 10-6.
                  did u see the mab-pac fight? there's your answer to your skepticism.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by tracylee
                    I dont remember Harold having him winning, not at all...that doesnt mean I'm right though. But, I'm certain that he scored that round a 10-7, for what it's worth
                    i take that back, harold saw manny winning by 5 points. the same way the other judge saw it. larry merchant had pac winning a close fight.

                    Last edited by JaNnO; 12-31-2004, 06:05 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by JaNnO
                      did u see the mab-pac fight? there's your answer to your skepticism.

                      mab and marquez are two different fighters so theres no comparison to how the fights will be.

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