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Originally posted by Rassclot
By fighting the best in every division one competes in, one DOES NOT dare to be great ... but by fighting for vacant titles in EVERY title match one has ever had except for at jrMW, that's daring to be great?
Cotto has NEVER had a world championship belt before jrMW.
Did you know that?
He only had vacant titles at JrWW, WW and finally got a championship against freakin Yuri Foreman.
You really need to step your boxing knowledge game up.
The only real risk Cotto ever really took was fight Mosley. Fighting Margarito who was coming off of a loss to Williams was not daring. Margarito had just been shown to be vulnerable.
Then afterwards, fighting Clottey and Pacquiao was DEFINITELY not daring. It was necessary to bring Miguel's career back into the spotlight because Margarito had beaten the brakes off Cotto's asss. Cotto had to constantly foul just to get passed Clottey! Remember the bodyslam? Then he got beaten so badly against Manny that he tried to quit on the stool!
That's "daring"?
It actually isn't.
If Cotto was really "daring", he wouldn't have refused a fight with Mayweather that was offered to him years ago back at jrWW. Hell, Carl Froch only had like 23 fights when he stepped up to the WORLD STAGE against Jean Pascal. He had 24 fights when he stepped into the Super Six tournament!
Now THAT is daring!
I'll try to explain this to you like I have to others so many times before:
Just because a fighter wins a bout doesn't make him special. If every time a fighter won a fight that made him a HOF or an ATG, then those terms and accolades would be meaningless.
That's the problem today. Fans and sportswriters hail every boxer who wins as some HOF'er. Margarito was NEVER in a position to be considered P4P let alone a ATG or HOF. His only real noteworthy win came over Miguel Cotto. THAT'S IT!
Yet some fans of Margarito spoke as if he was some legend. They spoke like he had taken the world by storm, when in reality Margarito had only 1 noteworthy win and lost that title 8 months later!
Cotto is no different.
Cotto had one noteworthy win over Mosley, and in just about 8 months later he got beaten bloody, lost his title, sought out a vacant belt against Michael Jennings, got REAL dirty against Clottey who was beating him, and then got embarrassed against Pacquiao.
Cotto is neither a HOF, a ATG or a P4P fighter because of that ONE razor slim win over Mosley. And when you factor in that all of Cotto's world belts have been vacant except for the one he beat Foreman for, he's never really even been special.
Special = dominance and longevity for years against the top 3 ranked competition in whatever division you compete in. Every top level fight Cotto and Margarito have been in have been hard fights. I don't think I have ever seen Floyd in a tough fight. Andre Ward always dictates the pace and space in his bouts although they do get hard for him at times. Kostya Tszyu maybe had 2 hard fights in his entire career. Roy Jones never had a close fight until his second fight with Tarver at what should have been the end of his career.
When you compare guys like Cotto, Margarito, Barrera, Morales, Clottey, Williams and Martinez against men like Mayweather, Ward, Tszyu, Jones and even Hopkins, there is no competition.
They are dwarfed in terms of longevity and dominance against top competition.
However in an effort to make other fighters who don't dominate like the aforementioned seem more important for the sake of keeping specific fanbases interested and spending money, the business of boxing has placed a TREMENDOUS amount of emphasis on P4P lists ... which are completely subjective because they DO NOT have to adhere to any criteria to substantiate a ranking.
Recognize bull**** and don let it play a role in boxing if your really love the sport.
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