Who has the better resume, Mayweather or Cotto???

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  • 4Corners
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    #221
    Originally posted by Walt Liquor
    Think about this. Is either going into the hof? Prob not. Defintely not hatton and if corrales does, it'll prob be a sympathy vote.
    Yes, but the reason I brought that up was because they were comparing Hatton and Corrales (both Top 10 P4P at the time) being undefeated........to Torres, Malignaggi, Quintana, and Foreman being undefeated. You don't think that's ridiculous???

    Hatton was a good win, and Corrales was a really good win, given the perception going into the fight, and the fact Diego still had a pretty good career after he got dominated by Floyd. Floyd was the underdog in that fight, and he absolutely dominated Corrales. I think that's part of the reason that so many people discredit that win and don't look at it like it's a great win.

    If it was up to the majority of people on this site, EVERYONE Floyd fought was bullcrap and he never beat anyone of note.

    And if Mayweather-Pacquiao isn't made, I am hoping for Mayweather-Cotto at 154, just so some of the Cotto stans can shut up. Cotto is past his prime-still good, pretty much the same guy he was in 09' when he fought Manny, only at SWW now. Mayweather is past his prime-still good, pretty much the same guy he was when he fought Mosley in 10'.

    If Floyd fights Cotto at 154 though and he beats him, he still probably won't get any credit, especially from Pacquiao fans. And I was NEVER a fan of the whole "left-overs" thing either. So......was Ali Frazier's left-overs at the time that Ken Norton beat him??? Was Hearns left-overs after Ray beat him??? NO.

    Was Hatton Floyd's left overs when Manny beat him??? NO.

    All that means is that Floyd gets more credit for it because he beat Hatton first and the better version of Hatton. But, Manny still gets his due for that win, because Hatton was past his prime-still good, coming off 2 solid wins, and Manny beat him at 140.

    If Floyd beats Cotto at 154, he gets his due for that win, but Manny still gets more because he did it first.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #222
      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
      Obviously he was overrated, but weight was an issue because ricky was givig up any small chance he has for a competiive fight.
      Weight wasn't an issue.

      He had the same chance of winning at 147 as he did at 140.

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      • pasawayako
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        #223
        Almost the same but if cotto is undefeated then cotto by a mile.

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        • Bombs
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          #224
          Only a difference of 30 votes. This shows how much of a joke floyd is lol. How can you compare him to Pacquiao when his resume struggles to compete with cottos.

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          • 4Corners
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            #225
            Originally posted by Bombs
            Only a difference of 30 votes. This shows how much of a joke floyd is lol. How can you compare him to Pacquiao when his resume struggles to compete with cottos.
            Just goes to show you how dumb people are on here. I could post something that said Cotto vs. Leonard at 147, who wins??? And it'd be probably be only a difference of like 30-40 votes out of a couple hundred, that's how many blind Cotto fans there are on here.

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            • Kagami Taiga
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              #226
              Originally posted by 4CornersKid
              Just goes to show you how dumb people are on here. I could post something that said Cotto vs. Leonard at 147, who wins??? And it'd be probably be only a difference of like 30-40 votes out of a couple hundred, that's how many blind Cotto fans there are on here.
              u already kno bro. cotto fans are completely irrational.

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              • thuggery
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                #227
                Definately Mayweather.

                Cotto's last 3 opponents were no where near quality type opponents. He had to go twelve with Mayorga..

                But I will say that Cotto dominated Margarito in epic fashion and completely outboxed him even if he couldn't get a KD or if it was stopped early. I think Cotto's new trainer helps out a lot. So I wouldn't write Cotto off at all. He is, in fact undefeated in most people's minds.

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                • thuggery
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                  #228
                  Originally posted by Roman Moreno
                  The reason he did that in the blue is because of the reason you mentioned in the green.

                  Until you see Cotto against a quality opponent it is difficult to say how much the trainer is truly helping him.

                  And, if anyone views Cotto as undefeated then they're nothing but ****riding idiots.
                  I simply say that because he beat Margarito with the new trainer. He worked on everything that needed to be worked on from the first fight they had.

                  -He didn't lay on the ropes and take flush uppercuts like in the first fight

                  -He refused to brawl with Margarito

                  -He circled around the ring forcing Margarito to lunge his right hook to which Cotto responded to with a jab

                  Basically what I'm saying is that he beat Margarito 9 rounds to 0 with his new trainer. Regardless if Margarito is not a quality opponent, Cotto still lost to him in the first fight. I just wouldn't be so quick to rule Cotto out.

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                    #229
                    Originally posted by jreckoning
                    Too bad he never fought the best at welter, while Cotto took his lunps and fought all..

                    Maybe Cotto should've retired or fought Baldomir to be equal.

                    Mayweather's retirement and ducking of Margarito gets zero points with me.

                    At least Cotto fought Murderer's row in their prime.

                    co-sign this...

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                    • thuggery
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                      #230
                      Originally posted by Roman Moreno
                      You can't brag about how much the new trainer supposedly helped him and Cotto beating Margarito 9-0 and then say "regardless if Margarito is not a quality opponent."

                      The question is could he have done it if he was facing a quality opponent. And, that has yet to be answered. And, I personally doubt he could. But, that's just my opinion.
                      the answer is yes, I think he could beat a quality opponent at 154. Not Mayweather quality, but a tier higher than Margarito's and Mayorga's.

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