Comments Thread For: Jackson Talks Mayweather-Pacquiao Mess, Roach's Ability

[check hook]

What's funny about this is that Futch was a great trainer and thought his fighters how to fight on the inside. For some reason Roach it's incapable of teaching his fighter how to fight on the inside. I guess Roach wasn't paying attention when it came to that.

Roach's strategy, and it's a strategy alot of trainers use, is to focus on the area where the fighter is good (in Manny's case, speed and angles, ie ambush) and perfect that. Focus on the one thing and get it to a level where it's exceptional, instead of focusing on everything and just being ok at everything. The problem with that strategy is that it becomes difficult to face guys who know how to negate what you are doing from a technical standpoint.

The reason Floyd is as good as he is, is that like Mike Tyson he is a boxing student. He has watched alot of boxing in his lifetime and studied it. What works against certain styles, which styles beat what etc. Also once he notices a weakness he works hard to correct it. He may have gone 12 zip against Baldomir, but if you watch the fight closely he had difficulty in the first few rounds due to Baldo's awkwardness. He later hired him as a sparring partner.

[Mr.Smith]

These are the kind of haters that are bad for the sport. Saying Roach can't be a great teacher if he wasn't a great boxer? Was Eddie Futch a great fighter? Was Enzo Calzaghe? Emmanuel Steward? They're just spreading hate and propaganda to bring more successful guys down, like the Mayweathers.

Same as this guy's statements on Pacquiao's fights. Not one mention of how Pac came up from flyweight and is an undersized welter. Not one mention of Pac being the smallest fighter and the fighter who went up the most divisions to take these catchweights, which have been part of boxing since it'sinception. Not one mention that Pac had to go up 13lbs from LW, had fought at SFW the same year, to fight Oscar and that Oscar was signed to fight Floyd at the same weight and fought at 150 the fight before. Not one mention of Pac having to go up 7lbs to fight Cotto and that Cotto was a small WW who had to lose just 1lb having weighed 146 the fight before. Not one mention that Margarito was a career welterweight and that the fight was only made at 150 because Sulaiman whored out his WBC belt, or that Margarito weighed 145 vs Mosley. I'm sure he gives Mosley full credit for that. Just pure one-side hating.

He must be black with a chip on his shoulder or a Mayweather supporter. He didn't balance it out by saying Floyd at WW has fought only 3 guys out of his 7 opponents who were coming off more than one fight at the weight. Oh no, Mayweather gets a pass. Honestly sick of the sport with these bigots so easily allowed to spill their garbage in the media.

The best way to get rid of bigotry is to not spread it yourself... Good points in your post but, your delivery sports a chip. There are fighters and fans that are not black that feel the same way about Pac. Same as there are fans and fighters that see May as a punk, cherrypicker etc.

[frosty-g]

These are the kind of haters that are bad for the sport. Saying Roach can't be a great teacher if he wasn't a great boxer? Was Eddie Futch a great fighter? Was Enzo Calzaghe? Emmanuel Steward? They're just spreading hate and propaganda to bring more successful guys down, like the Mayweathers.

Same as this guy's statements on Pacquiao's fights. Not one mention of how Pac came up from flyweight and is an undersized welter. Not one mention of Pac being the smallest fighter and the fighter who went up the most divisions to take these catchweights, which have been part of boxing since it'sinception. Not one mention that Pac had to go up 13lbs from LW, had fought at SFW the same year, to fight Oscar and that Oscar was signed to fight Floyd at the same weight and fought at 150 the fight before. Not one mention of Pac having to go up 7lbs to fight Cotto and that Cotto was a small WW who had to lose just 1lb having weighed 146 the fight before. Not one mention that Margarito was a career welterweight and that the fight was only made at 150 because Sulaiman whored out his WBC belt, or that Margarito weighed 145 vs Mosley. I'm sure he gives Mosley full credit for that. Just pure one-side hating.

He must be black with a chip on his shoulder or a Mayweather supporter. He didn't balance it out by saying Floyd at WW has fought only 3 guys out of his 7 opponents who were coming off more than one fight at the weight. Oh no, Mayweather gets a pass. Honestly sick of the sport with these bigots so easily allowed to spill their garbage in the media.

i don't fully agree with the guy's comment about having to be a great fighter to be a great teacher, it can help but is not necessary.however i don't believe roach is a good teacher, rather a good trainer. and yes there is a difference.

the thing about pacquiao going up in weight is explained by him and roach by saying that he was growing and needed to move up, and that he's finally reached where he's about comfortable to stay. so it's not the same as deliberately dragging someone out of their weight division in order to gain yourself an advantage- something which freddie roach is quite unashamed about given interviews he's taken part in stating such.

[hitmanjosh]

Gotta Luv John, because that's real talk baby!

John, boy you laid it out there and only a real fighter can appreciate it. People don't get it but Manny could fight and was a Champion even before he started working with Freddie. As for being a great fighter to be a great trainer I don't agree with that; however I do think you needed to be a fighter or have been around the sport for years to learn. I have been around this sport as a fighter and fan both amature and professional for 30 years and I'm still learning so I understand when you have these guys pop in the door just to get paid under false pretense.