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  • #21
    Originally posted by Rapid Counter View Post
    I think Cotto wins the rematch and I'm willing to take a few bets on that. If anyone is interested get back to me. The first fight was competitive until the 2nd knock down which ruined Cotto for the rest of the fight. That can happen to anyone. Could have been a completely different fight if that uppercut never landed. I don't think Cotto makes the same mistakes in the rematch.
    you know cotto is a sucker for uppercut right?

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Rapid Counter View Post
      I think Cotto wins the rematch and I'm willing to take a few bets on that. If anyone is interested get back to me. The first fight was competitive until the 2nd knock down which ruined Cotto for the rest of the fight. That can happen to anyone. Could have been a completely different fight if that uppercut never landed. I don't think Cotto makes the same mistakes in the rematch.
      Cotto was going to get hit, and hurt, eventually. If not the fourth round it was going to be the fifth or sixth.

      Just prior to the 2nd knockdown, Cotto had Manny on the ropes and pounded away, but did not hurt Manny one bit. Then Manny gets off the ropes and starts firing combos at Cotto and eventually dropped him.

      It's going to happen again.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by k1llu View Post
        you know cotto is a sucker for uppercut right?
        I do know that and so does Cotto. I gave my reasons why I think Cotto can win but I know its a tough fight. If you are so confident in pac let's bet

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        • #24
          Originally posted by marvin douglas View Post
          Cotto was going to get hit, and hurt, eventually. If not the fourth round it was going to be the fifth or sixth.

          Just prior to the 2nd knockdown, Cotto had Manny on the ropes and pounded away, but did not hurt Manny one bit. Then Manny gets off the ropes and starts firing combos at Cotto and eventually dropped him.

          It's going to happen again.
          You think pac never got hurt in that fight? Pac got his ear drum busted, you think that can't happen again? You think Cotto cant hurt pac to the body when Margarito managed to do it? Trust me, if Cotto lands properly he is more than capable of hurting pac. That's my opinion and I stand by it. I never said it would be a walk in the park for Cotto.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Rapid Counter View Post
            You think pac never got hurt in that fight? Pac got his ear drum busted, you think that can't happen again? You think Cotto cant hurt pac to the body when Margarito managed to do it? Trust me, if Cotto lands properly he is more than capable of hurting pac. That's my opinion and I stand by it. I never said it would be a walk in the park for Cotto.
            ok if the fight is made lets bet...agree??

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            • #26
              Some of you guys are seriously delusional, assuming the weight will not make a difference. At 145 Manny even admitted that his punches hurt, but that he had to make it look like they weren't, Freddie knew Marg was still in Cotto's head. If he couldn't hurt you, and he got hurt first he was just lost especially without a trainer to give him any kind of direction.

              The uppercut was more a result of Cotto's horrible techinque in that fight, watch that knockdown again, Cotto's head was lower than his arms when he was throwing a punch. Not having a trainer had a horrible affect on Cotto, along with the weight. Cotto maybe came in weighing 155 on fight night, as JMW he comes in weighing 160-165, that's a lot more than Manny will weigh and the punches WILL affect Manny more, period. It isn't just that but a trainer with his renewed technique and a gameplan this time, not just to slug it out with Manny. I'm just saying there is a reason Manny doesn't want Cotto at 150, because he knows Cotto is a lot more dangerous at the weight.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by bluetuazon View Post
                ok if the fight is made lets bet...agree??
                You got yourself a bet bro

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Rapid Counter View Post
                  I think Cotto wins the rematch and I'm willing to take a few bets on that. If anyone is interested get back to me. The first fight was competitive until the 2nd knock down which ruined Cotto for the rest of the fight. That can happen to anyone. Could have been a completely different fight if that uppercut never landed. I don't think Cotto makes the same mistakes in the rematch.


                  you can make that argument about any boxing match dude
                  there's a reason why people dont

                  if only he didn't get hit he could have won the fight?
                  if only!


                  last fight's result was a product of pacquiao's superiority

                  cotto will go one of two routs:


                  1. make take the risks neccessary to win the fight. have a very slight chance of winning, while opening himself up to the possibility of getting caught and hurt and stopped.
                  we've already seen that fight. weight has nothing to do with it. cotto tried for five or six rounds. he got caught, and if he continued to try and win the fight he would have been stopped.


                  dont take the risks. cotto decided//discovered early on in the pacquiao fight (lets say around the 5th or 6th round) that he had no hope of winning, and that trying to win would get him stopped

                  that notion was clearly evident in the way he fought the rest of the fight
                  he was not trying to win. you have to take risks to win. especially if you are miguel cotto fighting manny pacquiao, you have to open up



                  cotto will show up for a payday, with no intention of winning
                  i dont want to see a great fighter reduced to that again

                  the end of that fight was horrible. how can any of you guys enjoy that?
                  especially the cotto fans, how do you guys want to see any more of that?


                  usually people are entitled to their own opinions
                  usually

                  you guys are way off on this one. way off.

                  pacquiao's fights are a finite quantity. to waste one of them for a miguel cotto rematch would be gut wrenching for any real fan of sport.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by New England View Post
                    you can make that argument about any boxing match dude
                    there's a reason why people dont

                    if only he didn't get hit he could have won the fight?
                    if only!


                    last fight's result was a product of pacquiao's superiority

                    cotto will go one of two routs:


                    1. make take the risks neccessary to win the fight. have a very slight chance of winning, while opening himself up to the possibility of getting caught and hurt and stopped.
                    we've already seen that fight. weight has nothing to do with it. cotto tried for five or six rounds. he got caught, and if he continued to try and win the fight he would have been stopped.


                    dont take the risks. cotto decided//discovered early on in the pacquiao fight (lets say around the 5th or 6th round) that he had no hope of winning, and that trying to win would get him stopped

                    that notion was clearly evident in the way he fought the rest of the fight
                    he was not trying to win. you have to take risks to win. especially if you are miguel cotto fighting manny pacquiao, you have to open up



                    cotto will show up for a payday, with no intention of winning
                    i dont want to see a great fighter reduced to that again

                    the end of that fight was horrible. how can any of you guys enjoy that?
                    especially the cotto fans, how do you guys want to see any more of that?


                    usually people are entitled to their own opinions
                    usually

                    you guys are way off on this one. way off.

                    pacquiao's fights are a finite quantity. to waste one of them for a miguel cotto rematch would be gut wrenching for any real fan of sport.
                    You gonna bet or what?

                    Should be easy points for you. Since you are so confident I expect good odds
                    Last edited by Rapid Counter; 01-22-2012, 12:09 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Marquez should fight Cotto and not Peterson to test himself

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