Harris offers to step in!

[elveiel]

I dont know what "Taking the piss" means, but no...no im not French.

i m sure my fellow french jabsrstiff and jose are gonna enjoy it

It means joking, he's said your French a couple of times.

[tracylee]

Your such an ******* sometimes Jose, i admit your a funny ******* but still an ******* all the same!!

I consider him more of a smartass, which is what I love about him the most! He's pretty good at it and I have a peculiar appreciation for that

[elveiel]

I consider him more of a smartass, which is what I love about him the most! He's pretty good at it and I have a peculiar appreciation for that

******* and smartass are about the same, both think there better than everyone and often have mood swings.

Jose is cool though, i know he'll give me abuse in the future but you have to laugh.

[tracylee]

******* and smartass are about the same, both think there better than everyone and often have mood swings.

Jose is cool though, i know he'll give me abuse in the future but you have to laugh.

Ooohhh, I've always considered the two completely different; and I dont like *******s! They do think theyre better than everyone else, etc...and are just unplesant to be around. However, a smartass can be quite funny and sometimes even make fun of themselves. Thats why I dont consider him an *******, but a definate smartass

[elveiel]

Ooohhh, I've always considered the two completely different; and I dont like *******s! They do think theyre better than everyone else, etc...and are just unplesant to be around. However, a smartass can be quite funny and sometimes even make fun of themselves. Thats why I dont consider him an *******, but a definate smartass

I suppose your right, Jose can be smartass for now and i'll call him an ******* on special occasions.

[tracylee]

I suppose your right, Jose can be smartass for now and i'll call him an ******* on special occasions.

There ya go!! That works too I'm trying to send karma...I must have sent to you, Jose and a few others recently or something??

[elveiel]

There ya go!! That works too I'm trying to send karma...I must have sent to you, Jose and a few others recently or something??

You sent it me a couple of days ago.

[tracylee]

You sent it me a couple of days ago.

Yeah, thats right...I've not been logged on much since (busy, busy!!!) so I've yet to spread it around more

[tracylee]

You sent it me a couple of days ago.

I just banked what you sent (and many thanks )..I've got a few things to do before the Steelers play ball but after the game I'll log back on and spread it around and get back to ya! (One of those rare occasions when my boys will be playing on one of my channels...few and far between chances to watch them play! )

[HayeFan]

Somebody get this kid a straight jacket. Jesus Christ.

*ahem*

This is just too funny. I love how he refers to me pointing out all the times that he was wrong as "nit picking".

Easy tiger, being right about minor details, but wrong about the big picture doesn't make you 'right'. Like I said, nitpicking is just that, So Klitschko had only headlined 1 PPV as opposed to 3, the core issue of that argument was based around whether Harris was comparable to Vitali K in terms of public notice. If Harris was worth more than a shake of the co*k to the US viewership you might have had more credibility behind your conviction that I had shown error both in my facts as well as argument. I'm sure you'd still have me strung up irrespective of the validity of my points, i.e. the big picture.

Ahh yes uh...uh yes well uh instead of typing out the names of the two men I referend to them as "ex-champs" kinda like short hand. Even thought neither were champions I just thought I should..uh...uh refer to them as champions cause uh...uh...

Dearie me, did it take you rephrasing what I'd said in order to penetrate that square point through your round ****ing head!? LOL

Hatton has as much pull with HBO as I do considering they hate Frank Warren and even Showtime has pretty much refused to put him on anymore until he steps up. Neitherone of them has any pull with that network.

There you go again, stroking that pig sized ****ing ego of yours. Fella, bottom line - Harris doesn't have as much appeal to the TV guys as Hatton does, as we speak. Trying to malign a fighter's popularity because of his shoddy management and tremulous relationship with the financial big guns doesn't compare to defending a fighter who has credible victories (in your eyes) under his belt and is a champion of at least equal stature, being all but ignored by his own people. Dont put Ricky in the same bag as Harris, he's clearly got more appeal. Even if his appeal lies in an American audience's desire to see him get his comeupance, that's still better than having none at all.

Is Bernard Hopkins a big draw in the boxing world?...The answer would be NO. To say he is just shows how little you know about the sport.

Funny I dont ever remember saying Harris was a bigger draw than Vitali. This is what its come to kid? just resorting to making stuff up out of the blue?

Are you telling me Vitali is a big draw? cause you know I have ticket sales and PPV buys that say otherwise here.

Making stuff up? Lets see shall we, here's what you had to say back then:

You need to get it through your thick Ricky Hatton nuthugging skull. Just because a fighter is not a draw does not mean that he's not good. Bernard Hopkins is not a draw I guess he sucks too huh, Same with Winky Wright, Hell lets throw Vitali in that mix too.

No, you didn't say that he was literally a bigger draw than Klitschko, but you used Klitschko as an example of a fighter who was good, but not a big draw. The fighters mentioned are ALL above Harris's monetary appeal, way above, different ****ing time zones baby.

You can quote ticket sales and PPV buys 'til the cows come home, the fact that he ever got to the stage of warranting PPV consideration makes him incomparable to Harris.

I think you've mistaken 'making stuff up' with 'Failing to bend towards your way of thinking or none at all'.

in my best "Hayfan"
Vitali is a big draw he's headlined tons on PPV fights 3 of his last 4 have been on PPV

Jose: No he's only headlined 1 PPV and the numbers show it was one of the biggest failures in boxing history

Hayfan: Stop Nit picking waaaaaa waaaaaaaaa.

That's a nice little delusion ya got going there. It's kind of trippy reading you impersonating me from a 'you' bias LOL

If only I could impersonate myself winning the Lottery We'd both be better off! It doesn't work that way sunshine.

Im sorry just where do you think a Ricky Hatton fight would apear on a card that featured Forrest/Mayorga2 and Judah vs Corley?...Oh thats right 3rd.

Naz coming here to fight guys popular in the States you say? you mean like Augie Sanchez? I mean cause he was a household name or maybe you were talking about the wildy popular Cesar Soto? I hear women actually trow panties at Cesar Soto when he's coming to the ring he's so widly popular, oh oh oh wait you must be talking about that mega star Wayne McCullough yeah thats it Wayne McCullough.

Hatton wouldn't have featured on that card, there was enough appeal in Forrest, Mayorga and Judah to make the sale, If Hatton would have featured it wouldn't have been against tough opposition. That's sort of 'it' in a nutshell, It would depend on the opposition as to where he'd appear and on which card. Harris had to take on the pretty skillful m'baye and lump it.

Now, the Naz reference. Why dont you ask the TV people why they chose to air those fights against less well known opposition? Those fights would have taken place in the UK had America not shelled out the money to see them.

If by "shooting for a Tszyu fight" you mean making a laughable offer to an all time great World Champion and wanting the fight in Manchester. Then yes he's shooting for a Tszyu fight.

No, this wont do. Shooting for a Tszyu fight by reaching an agreement with Tszyu's manager. How could Hatton's people have bargained with anyone but Wharton and forseen Pacman's shoddy manager cutting in. Although I'll add to that, Hatton was a part of the 'new' management's plans, albeit in Australia. A location that the American TV channels have stated previously as being 'no-go'.

you just flat out dont get this do you? You either dont get it, dont want to get or have your head so far up Ricky Hatton's ass you get it, but a re just to stubborn to admit it.

WHO GIVES A **** IF HE CAN SELL OUT AN ARENA. You know what that makes him? Eruopes answer to Joe Mesi thats what.

Better 'Europe's Mesi' than 'America's Harris'. Oh, and just because I dont conform to Jose's way of thinking, does't mean that I 'dont get it'.

No my big fish/little pond analogy has already come true. Do you know why? because Hatton has been a pro for what 7 years and has almost 40 pro fights and has yet to do ANYTHING worth mentioning.

Look who he's fought recently for Christ sakes.

Joe Hutchinson was destroyed one year erlier by Teddy Reid

Vince Phillips was ancient and was beaten up by Mitchell in his fight before Hatton

Ben Tackie was coming off back to back losses

Carlos Vilches had just lost to Mitchell

Mike Stewart was beaten to death by Mitchell right before Hatton fought him

Ray Olivera hadn't even fought at 140 since like 2001. He was also coming off an ass whoopin at the hands of thew very ordinary Elio Ortiz.

Hatton's still only 26, 2005 is going to be his make or break year credibility wise. You can throw as much scorn on Hatton's previous victories as you like, It doesn't change the fact that pauper-****ing-Harris is still trying to lick the fat from another man's plate. Hatton has options on his plate, Harris doesn't, but you know a guy's gotta provide for his family, cant blame him for trying to muscle in on a little green.

Why dont you tell Hatton to grow a pair of balls, stop fighting Sharmba leftover, Come up from under Frank Warren's skirt, Stop making empty offers, buy a ****ing plane ticket and fight someone with a PULSE when he does all that then you can get back to me.

Oh yeah tell his pasty ass to get some sun too he hurts my eyes.

Oh, you'll get your wish there Jose. 2005 is lining up to be a great year. You've got Scott Harrison looking at a Barrera clash if the fight can be made, Calzaghe looking towards a meeting with either Tarver or Johnson and Hatton versus at least one of the elite.

You have reason to doubt, both Calzaghe and Hatton have just had a horrendus year of it, but that topic has garnered far too much attention for another bad year to go unnoticed. I think you'd be doing the British fans a great disservice if you think they'd idly continue to take an interest if our fighters continued to make mandatory defences against low level opposition. Especially after Hatton himself anounced to his fans, microphone in hand in the ring centre 'Next time, we go for the big one!'.

Hatton and (reluctantly) Warren have announced their interest in now taking on the best publicly. Past excuses have been made and accepted on behalf of the majority of British boxing fans, Hatton is well aware of his need to make a move this year.

The way you're pushing this, you'd think we were talking about Ottke and the German fans. Hatton makes his living from the British fans, dont think for a second that he'll continue to be lauded for long if he doesn't go through with it. British fighters have a long held reputation for losing at the last hurdle against world class opposition, it's what's expected more often than not. Hatton is a well established enough figure on these shores to not have to worry about a loss ending his bankability. Hatton knows that, his fans know that and until he has 2005 under his belt and only then will your analogy hold anything but light ****ing relief.

Im pretty much done with this thread now. He's just a fanboy.

... The world according to Jose has spoken!

I should expect no less from such an unconditional prick.