Sergio Martinez' has no ground to stand on.....

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #11
    Leaving out the fact that hes willing to come down in weight to fight them, of course....

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    • BartBears
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      #12
      Originally posted by JoeMan
      So who do you want to see Mayweather fight next
      if Pac fight doesn't happen?

      He will fight Alvarez

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      • BartBears
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        #13
        I can't find a video right now, but it was about 1 year ago when I saw Pirog with his promoter calling out Martinez to fight in Moscow and they said they offered Martinez 3 millions for that fight. But he rejected.

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        • mfdaly
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          #14
          Your reasoning is nonsensical

          Sergio Martinez has every ground to stand on with challenging both Mayweather and Pacquiao....any comments otherwise are quite silly. Sergio Martinez is a natural super welterweight and both Mayweather and Pacquiao have competed at the superwelterweight class in recent years. Pacquiao, Mayweather, Arum, Ellerbe, Haymon, and Roach will never fight Martinez because they want every single advantage in a fight....THIS IS FURTHER DISPLAYED IN THE FACT THAT THEY BOTH REFUSE TO FIGHT EACH OTHER.

          This is not to say that both Pacquiao and MAyweather could not beat Martinez. In fact, Mayweather would have a very good chance in beating Martinez. Yet, they will never fight him because they and the people that surround him are paranoid and they have too much to lose with a loss.

          ITS SAD THAT CERTAIN SPECTATORS/FANS CONTINUE TO DEFEND MAYWEATHER AND PACQUIAO...THEY HAVE ENOUGH DEFENSE ALREADY WITH THEIR TEAMS AND HANGER-ONS AROUND THEM.

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          • al-Xander
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            #15
            Originally posted by BartBears
            He will fight Alvarez
            Thank you. But I'm asking the TS, who is a Floyd fan. He's obviously against this Martinez fight. So who does he want for Floyd's next fight?

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            • Hougigo
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              #16
              Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
              He said he'd fight Ward at 164 a hundred times.
              He did? When?
              I heard interest... what'd he say to Bute's catchweight challenge?

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              • War Dinamita
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                #17
                Martinez is too small to fight at 168.

                If he fights any of the top guys at 168, it has to be in a catch-weight fight because he would be giving up a lot to them if they fought at 168.

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                • DoktorSleepless
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by hougigo
                  He did? When?
                  He's been saying the same thing since around mid last year over and over again in various interviews. He'll go up to 164. Most recently he said he'd like Ward here. Anyway, the whole thing is ridiculous because people have been saying Martinez has been ducking Ward for almost a year despite the Super Six barely finishing last month.
                  Originally posted by hougigo
                  what'd he say to Bute's catchweight challenge?
                  I'd hardly call it a challenge. They asked him if he's willing to fight Martinez at a catchweigh and he said maybe 166. That's barely making an effort.

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                  • 4Corners
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JoeMan
                    So who do you want to see Mayweather fight next
                    if Pac fight doesn't happen?

                    Well I would have liked to have seen Mayweather-Martinez, but Sergio said he's still fighting Macklin no matter what, so that won't happen until at least November or December this year. So, the only other options besides Manny are Canelo and Cotto at 154. Cotto at 154 would be a B+ for Floyd, while Canelo would be a C+/B- at the highest. I would like to see Floyd fight Canelo maybe in 2013, if Canelo were to beat Cotto or Kirkland or something.

                    If Alvarez-Cotto was signed, I bet we'd get a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight.

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                    • 4Corners
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by JoeMan
                      Thank you. But I'm asking the TS, who is a Floyd fan. He's obviously against this Martinez fight. So who does he want for Floyd's next fight?

                      No way in the world am I against Mayweather-Martinez or Pacquiao-Martinez. I just said they shouldn't really feel any obligation to fight him, becuase he still a Middleweight and they are still Welterweights. If that's the case, than Sergio better feel obligated to fight Andre Ward, Lucian Bute, Andre Dirrell, Anthony Dirrell, or even 175 lb guys like Dawson and Hopkins.

                      I am surprised that so many people give Sergio a pass on calling out a guy that started at like 105 lbs and another guy that started at 130 lbs, and defend him not pushing for fights with Ward or Bute, and straight up refusing to fight Pirog. Whether or not that fight was offered in Europe, Sergio still declined that fight. Also, Lou and Sergio claim that Pirog has done nothing outside of beating Jacobs.....what the hell did Darren Barker do??????? Yes, Barker pretty much turned out to be better than anyone thought he was, but if Pirog hasn't earned a Sergio fight, than Barker sure as hell didn't.

                      Like I said initially, Sergio has every legit reason to complain about Chavez avoiding him, as well as Cotto, but not Floyd or Manny, 2 divisions below him. If that's the case, than like I said, Sergio better fight Ward, Bute, Dirrell Bro's, etc. I have only heard Sergio say something to the effect of "Oh yeah, Martinez-Ward would be a great fight", but than his promoter comes out and says Sergio isn't fighting Super Middleweights ever. Sergio can't have it both ways, yet he seems to want it like that. He should just clean out 160 completely and cement his legacy as a dominant Middleweight. He can fight the Lee-Sturm winner, Quillin, Lara, Pirog, Geale, all within the next couple years, if he doesn't get a Floyd or Manny fight.

                      Floyd and Manny shouldn't feel obligated to fight him, 2 weight classes bigger, but it would enhance their legacies greatly.

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