Pacquiao is shot now anyways

[solo20]

styles make fights,but jmm was even older than their previous encounters and he was moving up 2 divisions! That cannot be ignored.manny was touted to ko him easily.

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[Larry the boss]

lol,wow..man its called styles.counter punchers with good movement cut workrate in half.boxing 101

[Reloaded]

Looking good punching a dehydrated waif in ODH and a Cwed Cotto coming of a career cheat beating is soooooooooooooo different to fighting a brilliant counter puncher that knows you inside and out , and not drained and weaker just stronger and a bit slower makes a lot of difference also ,,,,,,

Its not all the same you have dynamics at play that are constantly changing by the year , by the opponent by the entire environment at the time ,,,,, you kids talk about boxing and certain fights like its all constant and lineal , its not and nothing could be further from the truth .

Manny looked worse in his latest fights because because of the oppositions form and condition at the time , if he were to fight the ODH and Cotto fight tomorrow under the very same conditions as before , he would like like a machine all over again .

You kids cant see outside a very narrow tunnel called hype .

[zcm]

in 2010 pac went against clottey n margarito n threw just over 1100 punches in those fights which is close 2 100 per round. In 2011 pac went against mosley and marquez n threw just over 600 punches so around 50 per round. It has nothing to do with pac being shot he just doesnt throw as much against fighters who have a boxing IQ because they can make you miss and then punish you so he needs to wait for an opening which isnt pac's game he needs to throw 6/7 punches at a time

[RightStraight]

lol @ Pacquiao being shot NOW like he's not a hype job.

[Furn]

Firstly jmm and Floyd aren't anything like each Other.

Second, every athlete has an off night now and then.

Third, Floyd looked slower with his hands and feet than he has before against Ortiz, that's why he had to throw elbows and cheap shots to get the win.

Let's just wait for the fight shall we, I think it will be closer than many think.

[Sammy2g3]

in 2010 pac went against clottey n margarito n threw just over 1100 punches in those fights which is close 2 100 per round. In 2011 pac went against mosley and marquez n threw just over 600 punches so around 50 per round. It has nothing to do with pac being shot he just doesnt throw as much against fighters who have a boxing IQ because they can make you miss and then punish you so he needs to wait for an opening which isnt pac's game he needs to throw 6/7 punches at a time

Well, he really didn't land any clean punches on Clottey. Clottey was in a shell most of the time. Clottey beats him if he would've actually fought back.

[mathed]

I just think that team Pac thought that JMM was going to be an easy fight and they underestimated him. Pac looked good but JMM is an excellent boxer and he wanted the victory more than Pac did.

Pac would work his azz off in training for a Mayweather bout.

[Reloaded]

in 2010 pac went against clottey n margarito n threw just over 1100 punches in those fights which is close 2 100 per round. In 2011 pac went against mosley and marquez n threw just over 600 punches so around 50 per round. It has nothing to do with pac being shot he just doesnt throw as much against fighters who have a boxing IQ because they can make you miss and then punish you so he needs to wait for an opening which isnt pac's game he needs to throw 6/7 punches at a time

You can throw more punches at slow aggressive guys than you can against faster counter punches , 1000 punches that connect at 30 % means you leave a window open to be countered 700 times , JMM and Floyd will pick that apart , all part of the dynamics kid .

Floyd will cut Mannys rate to the lowest in his career , I guess that would be because every time you miss he will make you pay ,,,,

[New England]

his feet and hands certainly arent as fast as his fights with de la hoya and ricky hatton (at 140) but he's a good stretch away from being shot


he's got some serious fights left

against the right opponent he can look spectacular again
unfortunately i dont see many on the horizon who fit the standards of the billing