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  • Toltec77
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    #31
    Originally posted by PRBOXINGCOTTO
    Juanma will beat this fake champ that got a gift from the ref and salido ran away fighting bums dodging juanma warrrr juanma
    Another ****** comment from the mojon=+) well see what happens on fight night, anything can happen in boxing thats better said then your lame ass comment

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    • FJRod
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      #32
      Originally posted by PRBOXINGCOTTO
      Juanma will beat this fake champ that got a gift from the ref and salido ran away fighting bums dodging juanma warrrr juanma
      Dude u must be the most ******ed post after *******s and *****s, might even give em' a run for their money...I wish I could take away the PR from ur user name. SMH

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      • loui_ludwig
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        #33
        Is the rematch in PR again? Should be in Las Vegas.

        I am picking JuanMa but his just gonna go forward again. Salido wins the rematch.

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        • marvin douglas
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          #34
          [QUOTE=richardt;11679409]
          Originally posted by marvin douglas
          I hate guys on the roids. Salido beat the Ghost, but the decision was overturned.QUOTE] I respect your opinion but the fact is, Salido took nothing. He immediately had a follow up test at LabCorp, a nationally recognized blood lab. The findings were negative of any steroids. Nandrolone is an anabolic steroid that can be present naturally in the human body.
          True, but nandrolone only appears in the human body in very minute quan****** (as do a whole host of other hormones). However, it this case, Salido had extremely high levels which were well beyond anything that could be considered "natural" or "normal."

          The fact the subsequent testing found no presence of "elevated levels" of steroids means nothing. Salido could have stopped taking steroids just before the fight and they wore off naturally. He also could have taken masking agents to hide the presence of nandrolone.

          The point remains he tested positive, and his performance is consistent with steroid use -- he's appears to be nothing more than a club fighter but astonishingly has great performances in championship fights.

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          • richardt
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            #35
            Salido immediately went to a credible lab to be tested and that is not something a guilty fighter does. Nandrolone detection test doesn’t actually test for the substance itself, it tests for 19-norandrosterone (19-NA) and 19-noretiocholanolone (19-NE), two of the major metabolites found in the body after the use of nandrolone or heavy exercise. It is highly unlikely these substances just dissapeared based on the testing times. For example if he stopped using nandrolone a year before the first test and he still tested positive, and then a few days after the traces were gone and he was negative, but this is extremely unlikely. Whats more, they actually tested a number of atheletes and a small percentage tested above 2.0 from heavy exercise. So Salido's assertion is both possible and plausible.
            Last edited by richardt; 01-18-2012, 11:37 AM.

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            • richardt
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              #36
              Salido is a lot like Freddie Pendalton...he started boxing at 16 and was missmanaged but learned boxing the hard way. he came into his own when he was 21 which is still very young. Both had many early losses but got on track.

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              • Eaner0919
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                #37
                Originally posted by PR ESQ.
                Much respect to Salido for taking the rematch in PR but JUANMA is going to get the job done. His future depends on it. Now or never. Career crossroads.
                and you don't think it's the same for Salido?

                he is thought to be a tough gateway fighter prior to all this and if he loses what's to say he does not go back to that status?

                beating JuanMa and having that belt means a great deal to his career as well

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                • richardt
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                  #38
                  It's obvious that PRBOXINGFOOL is no older than 10. A) he does not know how to use quotes, B) always picks the PR fighter, C) has never offered anything analytical. D) has an excuse ready before the 1st round. There is no way he is older than 10.

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                  • PR ESQ.
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Eaner0919
                    and you don't think it's the same for Salido?

                    he is thought to be a tough gateway fighter prior to all this and if he loses what's to say he does not go back to that status?

                    beating JuanMa and having that belt means a great deal to his career as well
                    Yes, most definitely, I can agree that it cuts both ways! Moreover, if Salido does it again then it will catapult his career even more dramatically than Juanma. Notwithstanding Juanma’s obvious deficiencies as a fighter, the loss is still regarded as a major upset.

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                    • CubanGuyNYC
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                      #40
                      [QUOTE=marvin douglas;11680025]
                      Originally posted by richardt

                      True, but nandrolone only appears in the human body in very minute quan****** (as do a whole host of other hormones). However, it this case, Salido had extremely high levels which were well beyond anything that could be considered "natural" or "normal."

                      The fact the subsequent testing found no presence of "elevated levels" of steroids means nothing. Salido could have stopped taking steroids just before the fight and they wore off naturally. He also could have taken masking agents to hide the presence of nandrolone.

                      The point remains he tested positive, and his performance is consistent with steroid use -- he's appears to be nothing more than a club fighter but astonishingly has great performances in championship fights.
                      Originally posted by richardt
                      Salido immediately went to a credible lab to be tested and that is not something a guilty fighter does. Nandrolone detection test doesn’t actually test for the substance itself, it tests for 19-norandrosterone (19-NA) and 19-noretiocholanolone (19-NE), two of the major metabolites found in the body after the use of nandrolone or heavy exercise. It is highly unlikely these substances just dissapeared based on the testing times. For example if he stopped using nandrolone a year before the first test and he still tested positive, and then a few days after the traces were gone and he was negative, but this is extremely unlikely. Whats more, they actually tested a number of atheletes and a small percentage tested above 2.0 from heavy exercise. So Salido's assertion is both possible and plausible.
                      You guys make some compelling points. I know a little about steroids, but not enough to debate about them. I do know this: when a person is accused of something -- in this case, tested positive for a banned substance -- their credibility is forever in question. Right or wrong, that's the way it is. Personally, in the absence of conclusive evidence, I prefer to judge Salido on his recent performances. But that's just me.

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