Comments Thread For: Photos: Juanma and Salido Go Face To Face in Puerto Rico
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Dude u must be the most ******ed post after *******s and *****s, might even give em' a run for their money...I wish I could take away the PR from ur user name. SMHComment
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Is the rematch in PR again? Should be in Las Vegas.
I am picking JuanMa but his just gonna go forward again. Salido wins the rematch.Comment
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[QUOTE=richardt;11679409]True, but nandrolone only appears in the human body in very minute quan****** (as do a whole host of other hormones). However, it this case, Salido had extremely high levels which were well beyond anything that could be considered "natural" or "normal."I hate guys on the roids. Salido beat the Ghost, but the decision was overturned.QUOTE] I respect your opinion but the fact is, Salido took nothing. He immediately had a follow up test at LabCorp, a nationally recognized blood lab. The findings were negative of any steroids. Nandrolone is an anabolic steroid that can be present naturally in the human body.
The fact the subsequent testing found no presence of "elevated levels" of steroids means nothing. Salido could have stopped taking steroids just before the fight and they wore off naturally. He also could have taken masking agents to hide the presence of nandrolone.
The point remains he tested positive, and his performance is consistent with steroid use -- he's appears to be nothing more than a club fighter but astonishingly has great performances in championship fights.Comment
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Salido immediately went to a credible lab to be tested and that is not something a guilty fighter does. Nandrolone detection test doesn’t actually test for the substance itself, it tests for 19-norandrosterone (19-NA) and 19-noretiocholanolone (19-NE), two of the major metabolites found in the body after the use of nandrolone or heavy exercise. It is highly unlikely these substances just dissapeared based on the testing times. For example if he stopped using nandrolone a year before the first test and he still tested positive, and then a few days after the traces were gone and he was negative, but this is extremely unlikely. Whats more, they actually tested a number of atheletes and a small percentage tested above 2.0 from heavy exercise. So Salido's assertion is both possible and plausible.Last edited by richardt; 01-18-2012, 11:37 AM.Comment
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Salido is a lot like Freddie Pendalton...he started boxing at 16 and was missmanaged but learned boxing the hard way. he came into his own when he was 21 which is still very young. Both had many early losses but got on track.Comment
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and you don't think it's the same for Salido?
he is thought to be a tough gateway fighter prior to all this and if he loses what's to say he does not go back to that status?
beating JuanMa and having that belt means a great deal to his career as wellComment
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It's obvious that PRBOXINGFOOL is no older than 10. A) he does not know how to use quotes, B) always picks the PR fighter, C) has never offered anything analytical. D) has an excuse ready before the 1st round. There is no way he is older than 10.Comment
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Yes, most definitely, I can agree that it cuts both ways! Moreover, if Salido does it again then it will catapult his career even more dramatically than Juanma. Notwithstanding Juanma’s obvious deficiencies as a fighter, the loss is still regarded as a major upset.Comment
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[QUOTE=marvin douglas;11680025]
True, but nandrolone only appears in the human body in very minute quan****** (as do a whole host of other hormones). However, it this case, Salido had extremely high levels which were well beyond anything that could be considered "natural" or "normal."
The fact the subsequent testing found no presence of "elevated levels" of steroids means nothing. Salido could have stopped taking steroids just before the fight and they wore off naturally. He also could have taken masking agents to hide the presence of nandrolone.
The point remains he tested positive, and his performance is consistent with steroid use -- he's appears to be nothing more than a club fighter but astonishingly has great performances in championship fights.You guys make some compelling points. I know a little about steroids, but not enough to debate about them. I do know this: when a person is accused of something -- in this case, tested positive for a banned substance -- their credibility is forever in question. Right or wrong, that's the way it is. Personally, in the absence of conclusive evidence, I prefer to judge Salido on his recent performances. But that's just me.Salido immediately went to a credible lab to be tested and that is not something a guilty fighter does. Nandrolone detection test doesn’t actually test for the substance itself, it tests for 19-norandrosterone (19-NA) and 19-noretiocholanolone (19-NE), two of the major metabolites found in the body after the use of nandrolone or heavy exercise. It is highly unlikely these substances just dissapeared based on the testing times. For example if he stopped using nandrolone a year before the first test and he still tested positive, and then a few days after the traces were gone and he was negative, but this is extremely unlikely. Whats more, they actually tested a number of atheletes and a small percentage tested above 2.0 from heavy exercise. So Salido's assertion is both possible and plausible.Comment
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