which hw had the best combo of power and speed ever............

[THE REAL NINJA]

but who is on your top 5 list....as far as speed....i dont count Roy jones as a hv

[SugaShane]

same list as you...Ali,Tyson,Patterson, Louis, then it's gotta be Frazier or something...

[THE REAL NINJA]

same list as you...Ali,Tyson,Patterson, Louis, then it's gotta be Frazier or something...

ok what about power thats hard for me ...i have to admit never seen shavers fight ...its hard to tell how hard louis was hitting in them old black and white films...Foreman was a monster..and when Tyson hit a guy he bounced around the ring for a halfhour

[SugaShane]

ok what about power thats hard for me ...i have to admit never seen shavers fight ...its hard to tell how hard louis was hitting in them old black and white films...Foreman was a monster..and when Tyson hit a guy he bounced around the ring for a halfhour

yeah, but Tyson fought a lot of bums, c'mon man! Even Holmes didn't want to fight Tyson he just said Don King knocked on his door with 3 mill. Probably hardest hitter is Foreman or Cooney.

[THE REAL NINJA]

yeah, but Tyson fought a lot of bums, c'mon man! Even Holmes didn't want to fight Tyson he just said Don King knocked on his door with 3 mill. Probably hardest hitter is Foreman or Cooney.

they were not the best... but they were the best we had to ofer at the time..thats not tyson's fault...i never heard people say tyson was ducking someone until the hole Lewis thing ... still when he hit a guy it made the loudest damn sound it was just unreal...i'm not sayin he is the hardest most of the time i'd say Foreman....like i said i never seen shavers and i know he is on top of alot of list

[Verstyle]

they were not the best... but they were the best we had to ofer at the time..thats not tyson's fault...i never heard people say tyson was ducking someone until the hole Lewis thing ... still when he hit a guy it made the loudest damn sound it was just unreal...i'm not sayin he is the hardest most of the time i'd say Foreman....like i said i never seen shavers and i know he is on top of alot of list

heeeeeeyyyy that is true. whenever tyson hit ppl u can hear it. i remember when he fought jose rebelta. jim lampley said that there going to stay silent just to hear the difference between tyson's punches. and they literally stayed quit for over a minute jus so we can hear and them also. now thats power!

[shocky]

Dempsey.. Ya musta forgot....

[Dynamite76]

Mike Tyson, definitely.Although for pure speed, there were several faster.

[on the ropes]

joe frazier......... butterbean hits pretty hard wheather hes fast is up 4 debate