Bute is really underrated

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  • turbotime
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    #51
    Originally posted by New England
    when a guy gets dropped the ref is supposed to pick up the official time of the knockdown in seconds from the knockdown timekeeper

    if you count ten seconds after the knockdown bute is still reeling on the ropes like a drunk

    by definition of the rules he's unable to continue and should be considered knocked out


    bute should have a loss to andrade on his record


    that being said, he's lightyears beyond the fighter he used to be these days and his rematch with andrade showed that
    Bute is on the ropes, that's fine. He was up, the fight was over. Mosley and Ali were both on the ropes after they were knocked down.

    Unable to continue? Continue what? The fight was done upon beating the count.

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      #52
      Originally posted by turbotime
      They had their fighters picked out way before Bute went to HBO. You're not making sense.
      Thats because you wouldnt see sense if it slapped you in the face.

      Bute's people had no intention of risking him in the Super Six.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        Thats because you wouldnt see sense if it slapped you in the face.

        Bute's people had no intention of risking him in the Super Six.
        I'll go with Hershman and Bute's team both stating that he wasn't invited, over what some biased euro poster has to say, thanks

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          #54
          Originally posted by turbotime
          Bute is on the ropes, that's fine. He was up, the fight was over. Mosley and Ali were both on the ropes after they were knocked down.

          Unable to continue? Continue what? The fight was done upon beating the count.
          He beat the count but there was still time left for him to be KTFO.

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            #55
            i agree bute is underrated. then again its kind of what you would expect considering his position. not only is he in the strongest division in boxing, but all th eotehr top fighters faced of against one antogher while he was left out in the cold. looking at his career then comparing it to the other top 168lbers its very tempting to just brush him aside based on his resume, knowing these other guys took one dangerous fight after another while he took easy defenses makes you want to say hes no good. thats not the truth though.

            looking at the way hes beating these fighters. looking at his skills, his physical attributes and everything else about him its just very hard not to be impressed. some fighters you can just tell they are top class regardeless of their oposition, and its not like hes fought bums. g.johnson is a beast even with a broken hand. he fought the way he did bcuz bute hurt him, something which is damn near impossible. that shows that his power really is world class, as is his other physical attributes, his boxing skills and his amateur background. the man is just incredible. cant wait to see him fight ward, froch, dawson, cloud or sillakh.

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              #56
              Originally posted by turbotime
              I'll go with Hershman and Bute's team both stating that he wasn't invited, over what some biased euro poster has to say, thanks
              Biased? You're obviously up Bute's arse. You'll believe Bute's team?

              Yeah cos they're gonna say "hey our guy almost got KTFO, we're not gonna put him in with elite fighters until we milk his ass for what its worth fighting bums at home".

              Use your brain.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                Thats because you wouldnt see sense if it slapped you in the face.

                Bute's people had no intention of risking him in the Super Six.
                I have to agree with this. It is clear Butes handlers had no interest in risking Super 6. When Taylor dropped out Bute could have joined but that is going right against his MO. He is a good fighter but it is easy to look good when fighting people well below your standard especially in your comfort zone in your back yard.At his level and experience it is not a coincedence he has not had really big fights it has been designed that way.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  Biased? You're obviously up Bute's arse. You'll believe Bute's team?

                  Yeah cos they're gonna say "hey our guy almost got KTFO, we're not gonna put him in with elite fighters until we milk his ass for what its worth fighting bums at home".

                  Use your brain.
                  Almost being KTFO certainly didn't hurt his drawing power whatsoever. Pascal was handled by Hopkins in their first fight, and people still came out in droves for the rematch.

                  Again, Hershman and Bute's team know more about the tournament than you ever will. Sorry man, their knowledge > your opinion.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    He beat the count but there was still time left for him to be KTFO.
                    Uh, he got dropped with 5 seconds left, there was no time for anything to happen.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by turbotime
                      Almost being KTFO certainly didn't hurt his drawing power whatsoever. Pascal was handled by Hopkins in their first fight, and people still came out in droves for the rematch.

                      Again, Hershman and Bute's team know more about the tournament than you ever will. Sorry man, their knowledge > your opinion.
                      Of course it didnt hurt his drawing power. His people knew they could still get Canadians to pay to watch him fight bums. So why risk him in the tournament?

                      Seriously, your argument is so weak, try to form your own opinion instead of using others. You might as well say Arum tells the truth all the time while you're at it.

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