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  • IMDAZED
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    #121
    Originally posted by ThePrince
    What 'demands' are you talking about exactly?
    This demand: Unless both guys lower their financial demands (ie, going back to $25 mil guaranteed a piece instead of $50)

    You seem to know what both fighters were asking for as guarantees in both instances. So please show how you know what Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao were asking for in guaranteed purses 2010 and what both fighters are asking for now - I'm impressed we know what their guarantees are now without negotiation ever taking place.

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    • shana07
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      #122
      Can boxingscene post a chronological order of the negotiation of this fight, so that everybody will be knowledgeable of who really is the ducker from the beginning, instead of accusing the other fighter of ducking only because of a "twitter" bluff

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      • ThePrince
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        #123
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        This demand: Unless both guys lower their financial demands (ie, going back to $25 mil guaranteed a piece instead of $50)

        You seem to know what both fighters were asking for as guarantees in both instances. So please show how you know what Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao were asking for in guaranteed purses 2010 and what both fighters are asking for now - I'm impressed we know what their guarantees are now without negotiation ever taking place.
        It was widely reported from '09-'10 that the fighters' purses would be $25 mil each. It wasn't until Nelson Mandela's daughter and Mohlaleng and other foreign investors came in at the beginning of '11 (Floyd's 'vacation') and offered each guy $50 million that camps brought up those amounts.

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        • IMDAZED
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          #124
          Originally posted by ThePrince
          It was widely reported from '09-'10 that the fighters' purses would be $25 mil each. It wasn't until Nelson Mandela's daughter and Mohlaleng and other foreign investors came in at the beginning of '11 (Floyd's 'vacation') and offered each guy $50 million that camps brought up those amounts.
          Now you're telling me they were offered $50m when before you were talking about their "demands." When did anyone involved in Floyd's negotiations demand $50m for their guarantee?

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          • neoz
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            #125
            pls quit with the bull **** you ******s.
            Only coward is Floyd and his world first drug test request. U guillable ido*t believe that wife beater you are really stup*d

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            • ThePrince
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              #126
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Now you're telling me they were offered $50m when before you were talking about their "demands." When did anyone involved in Floyd's negotiations demand $50m for their guarantee?
              From legal documents and neutral sources (so you can't try to spin it that it's just Arum lies):
              According to Lodge, the negotiations and various discussions started in January 2011 with Mohlaleng and VisionQwest on a project to bring Pacquiao and Mayweather to fight in South Africa in honor of Nelson Mandela’s 93rd birthday. Both companies began discussions with Manny Pacquiao (represented by Top Rank) and Floyd Mayweather (represented by Jeff Mayweather and Al Haymon). No final agreement was reached around the financial arrangements, and all parties amicably agreed to end discussions.

              http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/04/prweb5266094.htm
              However, Moody said he had an oral agreement with Mandela to get 15 percent ($7.5m) of the estimated $50m to be paid to Mayweather jr. He had set up meetings with Mayweather sr and then with Mayweather jr in Las Vegas in February and March.

              http://www.sundaytribune.co.za/zindz...tPageLayout.ot

              Jeff actually makes it seem like Floyd balked at the $50 and instead demanded double for himself, which is a claim many other sources have made. But that's not what we're discussing so I'll leave it alone.
              Last edited by ThePrince; 01-14-2012, 08:12 PM.

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              • check hook
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                #127
                Told ya it would be Cotto if he stays with TR. How else would Bob get him to stay?? If it's not Cotto, my guess is he might leave TR.

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                • IMDAZED
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by ThePrince
                  From legal documents and neutral sources (so you can't try to spin it that it's just Arum lies):
                  According to Lodge, the negotiations and various discussions started in January 2011 with Mohlaleng and VisionQwest on a project to bring Pacquiao and Mayweather to fight in South Africa in honor of Nelson Mandela’s 93rd birthday. Both companies began discussions with Manny Pacquiao (represented by Top Rank) and Floyd Mayweather (represented by Jeff Mayweather and Al Haymon). No final agreement was reached around the financial arrangements, and all parties amicably agreed to end discussions.

                  http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/04/prweb5266094.htm
                  However, Moody said he had an oral agreement with Mandela to get 15 percent ($7.5m) of the estimated $50m to be paid to Mayweather jr. He had set up meetings with Mayweather sr and then with Mayweather jr in Las Vegas in February and March.

                  http://www.sundaytribune.co.za/zindz...tPageLayout.ot
                  That's not what I asked you. You have been unable to answer whether:

                  1. Floyd Mayweather or anyone who handles his negotiations "demanded" a $50m guarantee.

                  2. Who he "demanded" this from and when they told him it couldn't be done because it was too much.

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                  • joseph5620
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    That's not what I asked you. You have been unable to answer whether:

                    1. Floyd Mayweather or anyone who handles his negotiations "demanded" a $50m guarantee.

                    2. Who he "demanded" this from and when they told him it couldn't be done because it was too much.
                    Don't expect an answer. Some people are pathetically delusional and only see what they want to. The spin is working overtime.

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                    • WESS
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by joseph5620
                      Don't expect an answer. Some people are pathetically delusional and only see what they want to. The spin is working overtime.
                      There is no spin. The truth is out and EVERYONE knows that Team Pac are ***ing cowards and are the reason we haven't seen this fight since 2009...

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