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  • IMDAZED
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    #21
    I don't know about losing his next fight. You guys make it seem as if he's fallen off a cliff or something. I don't see any of those guys beating him. Maybe Bradley and of course Juan Manuel. The flaws have always been there (he's lost several times already) but you need certain attributes to expose them. Morales and Marquez are elite boxer-warriors who take a very good shot. The rest don't possess that.

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    • BillyBoxing
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      #22
      Originally posted by cdsimple
      Bradley and Peterson beat him. Roach's fighters have no defense for a pressure fighter with defense that can fight on the inside. The only thing he can do is cover up, push, or hold. Marquez has Pac totally figured out, it would be a clear win this time. Cotto is tricky. If he made the correct strategy adjustments from the first fight he could win, but im not sure he would.

      Ok, if you watch floyds last fight, it was all in preparation for pac. Floyd tweeked his style to a more come forward style because he knew this would be the easiest way to beat pac. If he sat back and countered pac, you run the risk of losing on volume to pac.

      Peterson I'm not sure, he would give Pacquiao a tough fight till it last but
      I don't know, Peterson is getting hurt too much in his fights, Pacquiao would probably knock him out if he's fighting face first like he does sometimes.

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      • cdsimple
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        #23
        Originally posted by 4CornersKid
        Pac still beats Lamont Peterson down, bad. I don't care what anyone says. Yes, Lamont fought hard against Khan, but he didn't win. I am sorry, and this is coming from someone that usually trashes Amir Khan all the time. Someone needs to show me where Lamont won any more than 3-4 rounds in that fight. I had the fight 8 rounds to 4, in favor of Khan. So, with all the BS judging, I still had Khan winning 114-111. Without the BS judging, 116-111 or 116-112 (if you don't count the "knock down" of Lmaont.
        I hear a lot of complaints about the ref for Khan/peterson, but watch the fight and tell me what would have happened to Khan if he didnt push/hold lamonts head down on the inside? He has no inside game, defense or offense, so he did the only thing he could do to keep lamont from going to town on him on the inside, use illegal tactics. Im a skeptic of pacs inside game also. Against margo he backed straight up against the ropes and was there for the taking but margo is slow and has no defense so pac just unloaded and moved. Can he do that against bradley or peterson? I dont think he can. I would love to see the fight, it would be very interesting.

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        • larcom
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          #24
          floyd vs manny was first mentioned after manny beat oscar then after he knocked out hatton the clamour for it grew then manny beat cottoand thats when they started negotiating.if the fight had happened then,manny was on the crest of a wave.but its more than two years since then and for me in his last 4 fights (clottey,margarito,mosley,marquez) manny has looked nothing like he did in those 3 previous fights.if they eventually fight later this year,for me thats 3 years since it should of happened.i expect floyd to win a clear ud if not by stoppage.its such a shame this never happened in 2009.back then everyone around the world wanted to see the fight now people have grown tired of it.

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            #25
            Pac will always have a close fight with jmm. Bradley will probably give pac a competitive fight, but i still see pac beating bradley. Cotto losses again to pac. Floyd vs pac is still a tough fight for me to call, but I think pac can pull off the win.

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              #26
              Originally posted by larcom
              floyd vs manny was first mentioned after manny beat oscar then after he knocked out hatton the clamour for it grew then manny beat cottoand thats when they started negotiating.if the fight had happened then,manny was on the crest of a wave.but its more than two years since then and for me in his last 4 fights (clottey,margarito,mosley,marquez) manny has looked nothing like he did in those 3 previous fights.if they eventually fight later this year,for me thats 3 years since it should of happened.i expect floyd to win a clear ud if not by stoppage.its such a shame this never happened in 2009.back then everyone around the world wanted to see the fight now people have grown tired of it.
              Yeah I was watching a bit of cotto vs pac again yesterday, and i forgot how sharp he was in that fight. Its a shame the Floyd vs pac fight didn't happen after that win because I feel pac was at his peak during that time.

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                #27
                Originally posted by cdsimple
                Tim Bradley is an elite fighter. He was a good fighter but he has progressed into an elite fighter. Peterson is very underated. He has only lost to Bradley, who i hold in high regard. As a long time boxing fan, i can tell you that it is absolutely true that once a fighter becomes champ, he improves. I can see peterson giving Pac all he can handle.
                As a long time boxing fan, I can tell you that's a pretty ****** statement.

                And, Peterson would be easy work for Pac. Floyd beats him, JMM like always has a shot, and maybe Bradley. That's all the opponents that are fighting right now from 154 on down that can beat Pac.

                *Didn't mention Martinez cuz' he's at 160 but of course he stops Pac.

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                • Luilun
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by FeFist
                  Mosley show the blue prints on how to beat Pacquiao. The problems he exposed, people were talking about for years.
                  Running for 12 rounds is the blue print in beating him you must be ******ed no judge will give a boxer the fight for running for 12 rounds agnist Pacquiao. The only thing Mosley accomplished was a blue print in how to survive to round 12. Try learning about the sport before you post.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by FeFist
                    I meant to say ''Didn't show'', but I disagree with the principle of your post so I will address it.

                    Pacquiao won the fight but he struggled to get his offense off. If he was against an opponent who could pull the trigger the score cards would have been more balanced. His fight with Marquez vindicates that point.
                    A big consideration in that fight has never really been accepted. That is the way that marque was deliberately seeking out MannyP's foot and stepping on ihis foot hard and often. If you review the tape you;ll see that many of Marquez' best combinations were thrown when Pacquioa was trapped in place, off balance and flailing away in self defence. In the 12th rd, Marquez notonly stepped all over MannyP's foot, but followed it forwards for at least 2 full steps as Pacquiao moved backwards,keeping his foot down hard all the time.

                    This should NOT be overlooked, and I fault The Roach for dismissing it, and not bringing ti to the ref's attention. Without this, the fight would have both looked and been scored quite differently.

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                    • FeFist
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by edgarg
                      A big consideration in that fight has never really been accepted. That is the way that marque was deliberately seeking out MannyP's foot and stepping on ihis foot hard and often. If you review the tape you;ll see that many of Marquez' best combinations were thrown when Pacquioa was trapped in place, off balance and flailing away in self defence. In the 12th rd, Marquez notonly stepped all over MannyP's foot, but followed it forwards for at least 2 full steps as Pacquiao moved backwards,keeping his foot down hard all the time.

                      This should NOT be overlooked, and I fault The Roach for dismissing it, and not bringing ti to the ref's attention. Without this, the fight would have both looked and been scored quite differently.

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