Holyfield vs either BRO?

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  • Boxing Bob
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    #11
    this is jimmy 1569s second thread like this. I have no idea what his thought here is??? I said it before and I'll say it again 15 yrs ago Evander could handle either brother. With the natural progression of age and boxing related wear and tear, Evander poses no threat to either. jimmy 1569 thinks its a good idea for Evander to go out on his back. Evander is one of my all time favorites and I want him to ride away with his legacy, dignity and health intact. Not to mention he hasn't beaten a world class hwt in almost 10 YEARS!

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    • jimmy1569
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      #12
      The fact that we DON'T want to see a TOP 10 heavyweight of alltime in with the brothers is what's troubling here. We complain when they beat a current top 10 creampuff from this supposed weak era & yet when we're presented with an alltime top 10 great from one of the supposed best eras for heavyweight boxing.. we cringe at the thought. Where's the logic here? Holyfield gave 2 title shots in a row to two consensus TOP 10 alltime fortysomething heavyweight greats... IT's time to return the favor.. AT LEAST Holyfield has remained active throughout.. Holmes & Foreman were comebacking & both got two shots each at the Lineage championship close to mid 40's.. wHILE eVANDER also got 2 title shots in a row... he was awarded with a loss in one of them despite REALLY winning..SO what's the problem here exactlY/ Do we NOT want to see a matchup of top 10 alltime great heavies potentially back to back Like we did when Evander WAS on top.. Foreman & Holmes more than held there own... well at least Foreman did (Holmes got ktfo by Tyson).

      Or are WE actually ADMITTING that the brothers are that DESTRUCTIVE.. bECAUSE eVANDER can't be any worse than Holmes or Foreman at similar ages. ALL yOU HATERS are admitting how DOMINANT & destructive both BROS really ARE & don't even effin' KNOW it.

      You can't have it both ways.. guys. It's EITHER the brother's are inept Or THEY are born natural killers & Evander is a willing victim & a sitting duck towards there venom?

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      • Barry Halls
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        #13
        I never read much of this guys posts. Is he worth the time? Is he more like Tunney (who i feel is worth the time) or like "Steelhammer2011" or whatever the hell that endless incarnation of waste is called?

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        • jimmy1569
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          #14
          Originally posted by Harry Balls
          I never read much of this guys posts. Is he worth the time? Is he more like Tunney (who i feel is worth the time) or like "Steelhammer2011" or whatever the hell that endless incarnation of waste is called?
          Stop acting like i'm invisible.. You're here.. THERE4 you are reading... otherwise get to steppin'.

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          • jimmy1569
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            #15
            Originally posted by Boxing Bob
            this is jimmy 1569s second thread like this. I have no idea what his thought here is??? I said it before and I'll say it again 15 yrs ago Evander could handle either brother. With the natural progression of age and boxing related wear and tear, Evander poses no threat to either. jimmy 1569 thinks its a good idea for Evander to go out on his back. Evander is one of my all time favorites and I want him to ride away with his legacy, dignity and health intact. Not to mention he hasn't beaten a world class hwt in almost 10 YEARS!
            He beat Valuev.... isn't that how Chagaev & Haye earned there shots at Wlad?

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            • Barry Halls
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              #16
              Originally posted by jimmy1569
              Stop acting like i'm invisible.. You're here.. THERE4 you are reading... otherwise get to steppin'.
              I'm asking others if it's worth debating with you. I'm not looking to try to use reason and logic with you if it's not worth the time.

              It's about being practical. Some posters are not worth the time and if i can be told that beforehand i can save myself that commodity.

              I'm not hating on the brothers for what it's worth. They're my two current favorites in the division and among my personal favorites of all time.
              It just happen that they have one of the worst fanbases here on boxingscene which makes Klitschko discussions a plague.

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              • Money Shot
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                #17
                I know what the current Klits would do with any version of Toney...



















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                • -Deal With It-
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Devotobox
                  No, he'd be another former cruiserweight who was defeated by their unique combo of skill and size, most likely. But he'd make it interesting, and might have a chance at toppling Wladimir.

                  Vitali? Very unlikely.


                  Yeah, because as we all know, Holyfield was just your average, run of the mill Cruiserweight, who got flattened in 5 rounds by a 40 year old super-middleweight. And also was beat from pillar to post by a B+ level Light Heavyweight.

                  Neither Klitschko has never faced anything close to resembling a fighter that matched the skill, speed, athleticism, heart, will & determination of a prime Holyfield.

                  Both would get stopped. But i can see Wlad's footspeed and movement keeping him out trouble into the mid to late rounds, maybe even taking a few rounds off of Holyfield, until the constant pressure that Holyfield applies catches up with him, and he gets caught with a blistering combination that has him stumbling around the ring on ***** street for about a round and a half before the fight gets stopped.

                  Vitali on the other hand, Holyfield would walk right thru in under 8. Too slow, too easy to hit, his skin is made of toilet tissue, and his heart is made of glass. His jab is also way to slow & half-assed to keep Holyfield off of him. Vitali would receive a savage, merciless & bloody beating, far worse then ever the one Lewis gave him.
                  Last edited by -Deal With It-; 01-12-2012, 08:09 PM.

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                  • jimmy1569
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by -Deal With It-


                    Yeah, because as we all know, Holyfield was just your average, run of the mill Cruiserweight, who got flattened in 5 rounds by a 40 year old super-middleweight. And also was beat from pillar to post by a B+ level Light Heavyweight.

                    Neither Klitschko has never faced anything close to resembling a fighter that matched the skill, speed, athleticism, heart, will & determination of a prime Holyfield.

                    Both would get stopped. But i can see Wlad's footspeed and movement keeping him out trouble into the mid to late rounds, maybe even taking a few rounds off of Holyfield, until the constant pressure that Holyfield applies catches up with him, and he gets caught with a blistering combination that has him stumbling around the ring on ***** street for about a round and a half before the fight gets stopped.

                    Vitali on the other hand, Holyfield would walk right thru in under 8. Too slow, too easy to hit, his skin is made of toilet tissue, and his heart is made of glass. His jab is also way to slow & half-assed to keep Holyfield off of him. Vitali would receive a savage, merciless & bloody beating, far worse then ever the one Lewis gave him.
                    You my friend are a disastrous poet waiting to happen if you really believe some of the nonsensical bs you just posted.. esp about the part about Vitali

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                    • jimmy1569
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                      #20
                      I know what the current Klits would do with any version of Toney...




                      I know what they'd do with any version of smokin' Joe... too. Vitali would make him do the air jordan mini hangtime Foreman shuffle Lol.

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