Comments Thread For: Schaefer: Who is Bob Arum Fooling? He is Full of ****!

[MrRolltide91]

But Floyd does care,,, I wish what you were posting was reality, and floyd didn't care what deal showtime cut, but I'm reality, he just said it has to be showtime only, and no hbo,, which showtime would be opposed to because they are smart enough to realize it would be impossible to do without hbo..

It was a roadblock duck, when Floyd made that recent statement about it being a showtime only PPv. It doesn't effect his paycheck, so why would he care.. It's an obvious duck tactic

I don't know I heard manny contract with hbo ends this month

[MrRolltide91]

Yeah I do...


Floyd is his own boss remember...


Did floyd waiver over any of the other roadblocks ie drug testing, no PPv money, no arum, and now no hbo..

Floyd hasn't wavered in anything,, so why would he waiver on this...



Come' on and think about it- if floyd really wanted to make this fight, he would have called out manny hard on his showtime interview and tried to get the hype going, like every other fighter does with potential opponents, but instead floyd puts up roadblocks.. That's the truth...

it doesn't matter. arum said they can't fight on cinco de mayo because its disrespectful to mexicans.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

If everything gets agreed upon, and then Arum then says he wants the fight to happen on another date, then how is it not Arums fault?

I totally agree that then it would be arums fault...


But in your scenario, floyd would have to agree to work with HBO, and he clearly stated in his showtime interview that he doesn't want hbo in the deal even though it won't effect his paycheck and would probably increase his paycheck because he would have the hbo hype machine behind him again...

Floyd hasn't agreed to anything, and seems content not to agree...

No HBO is an obvious deal breaker, and Floyd knows it, that is why he is playing the showtime only card, and floydiots defend it...

[littlemac]

But Floyd does care,,, I wish what you were posting was reality, and floyd didn't care what deal showtime cut, but I'm reality, he just said it has to be showtime only, and no hbo,, which showtime would be opposed to because they are smart enough to realize it would be impossible to do without hbo..

It was a roadblock duck, when Floyd made that recent statement about it being a showtime only PPv. It doesn't effect his paycheck, so why would he care.. It's an obvious duck tactic

You really think Floyd has power over Showtime? Floyd is Showtime's bit(h. Floyd is just being loyal to the network he fights in. You really think his going to give any praise to HBo especially with Oscar and Arum over there? Floyd has too much of an ego is belittleling them. How can Arum get networks to work if his simply says no on the date because of a moronic excuse. Please dude. Arum has done this before when Floyd called them out for May 5 2012 and Arum keep moving the avaulable dates for Manny.

"The fact is, he doesn't want to do the fight. Look what happened. When Pacquiao fought his last fight, we said Mayweather was going to fight on May 5, and Arum said pacquiao wasn't going to be available, it would have to be in June.
Then, when it looked like Mayweather wasn't going to be available in May, suddenly, Pacquiao was going to fight in May. And now, suddenly, Mayweather is going to fight in May, guess what? Pacquiao isn't available until June." -Richard Schaefer

[MrRolltide91]

Yeah I do...


Floyd is his own boss remember...


Did floyd waiver over any of the other roadblocks ie drug testing, no PPv money, no arum, and now no hbo..

Floyd hasn't wavered in anything,, so why would he waiver on this...



Come' on and think about it- if floyd really wanted to make this fight, he would have called out manny hard on his showtime interview and tried to get the hype going, like every other fighter does with potential opponents, but instead floyd puts up roadblocks.. That's the truth...

Lets be real both floyd/manny calling each other out won't get the hype going. they been doing that for 5 years.


The only way there will be hype is when both fighters signs the contract

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I don't know I heard manny contract with hbo ends this month

Rumor, and manny is tied to arum, who is deeply connected to hbo... Hbo will be involved in manny's career for the foreseeable future.. Arum won't burn the bridge, by taking manny to showtime for one fight.. And showtime has stated they don't mind working with HBO similar to tyson-lennox,,, so all this network stuff that floyd is talking about should be a non issue, yet floyd is making it an issue

it doesn't matter. arum said they can't fight on cinco de mayo because its disrespectful to mexicans.

Arum is full of crap....and he is just talking thru both sides of his mouth.
His ideal scenario is floyd-manny cinco of May, and cotto-canelo in June PR weekend in New York..

Arum knows that canelo wants to fight on cinco, so he is just trying to play nice with camp canelo..

[MayMosPeaHop]

But Floyd does care,,, I wish what you were posting was reality, and floyd didn't care what deal showtime cut, but I'm reality, he just said it has to be showtime only, and no hbo,, which showtime would be opposed to because they are smart enough to realize it would be impossible to do without hbo..

It was a roadblock duck, when Floyd made that recent statement about it being a showtime only PPv. It doesn't effect his paycheck, so why would he care.. It's an obvious duck tactic

C'Mon now, the obvious duck tactic is not wanting to fight on May 2nd and Arum stating on video that we have done all we can to make the fight happen. Those type of statements are duck tactics and have been done in the past throughout this whole saga from Mr. Bob Arum.

Next, I do not agree that FMJ wanting the PPV on Showtime would be a breaking point for negotiations. Sorry, I cannot agree with that point or see how that is ducking. That part should be a part of negotiations but not a breaking point. And if that is a breaking point, then the fight was never going to get made because Bob would have promised something ridiculous to HBO that of course could not have been attained. If you are the "A side(FMJ/Showtime/CBS)", then the "B side(HBO/Time Warner)" fighters network is always going to get 2nd billing in that part of the negotiation. Unfortunately, that statement from FMJ probably gives some details about what has been going on behind the scenes just like his statement about the money split in his interview. It will all come out if the fight does not get made.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Lets be real both floyd/manny calling each other out won't get the hype going. they been doing that for 5 years.


The only way there will be hype is when both fighters signs the contract

No,,, neither have really called the other out, especially on a big platform.. Maybe on Instagram or some crap like that...but never on a major platform like a post fight presser, or an espn interview, etc...

Floyd could have called out manny hard on showtime this past weekend but he chose to put up roadblocks.. Floyd needed to go all "Shannon Briggs trolling" style on manny... He needed to do a great pro wrestling style interview calling out manny, and then following up by making the fight.. Instead floyd gave road blocking demands..
Remember the smack that floyd talked about Corrales and Oscar before ey signed to fight.. That's the floyd that needed to show up in that showtime interview

[littlemac]

If everything gets agreed upon, and then Arum then says he wants the fight to happen on another date, then how is it not Arums fault?

Arum keeps making up excuses. Back in 2014 when Floyd was calling them out for May 5th(which is what this thread was originally about) they were doing the same ducking game with excuses about a cut that all of a sudden needing more time to heal when it was reexamine by Arum's relative docter, then move Manny's available date back and forth when Floyd was going to be sent to Jail, but then got an extentions to make the fight and then Manny couldn't make that date, but later he could, but then he couldn't because Arum claim they needed a stadium and more time to promote the fight. I mean excuses after excuses and now because its disrespectful to Mexicans. I mean the time is now their both available, the date is perfect, the venue is ready, everyone is ready, theres plenty of time, I mean its perfect yet Arum now wants to focus on getting a date for a fighter he doesn't even promote. Its rediculous.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

C'Mon now, the obvious duck tactic is not wanting to fight on May 2nd and Arum stating on video that we have done all we can to make the fight happen. Those type of statements are duck tactics and have been done in the past throughout this whole saga from Mr. Bob Arum.

Next, I do not agree that FMJ wanting the PPV on Showtime would be a breaking point for negotiations. Sorry, I cannot agree with that point or see how that is ducking. That part should be a part of negotiations but not a breaking point. And if that is a breaking point, then the fight was never going to get made because Bob would have promised something ridiculous to HBO that of course could not have been attained. If you are the "A side(FMJ/Showtime/CBS)", then the "B side(HBO/Time Warner)" fighters network is always going to get 2nd billing in that part of the negotiation. Unfortunately, that statement from FMJ probably gives some details about what has been going on behind the scenes just like his statement about the money split in his interview. It will all come out if the fight does not get made.

Facts are that manny is attached to hbo,,, they are part of the deal, showtime knows this and is fine with it.. Willing to work together to make fight happen, yet floyd is the onl one saying it has to be showtime only, even though it has no effect on his paycheck
That's a ducking tactic, and against the wishes of his employer showtime