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  • Originally posted by Rassclot View Post
    He throws a lot of punches and connects.

    most importantly, he wins against other HOFers and he has 8 titles in 8 different divisions.


    The idiots here are trying to argue sitting back and pot shotting that does 0 damage = great offense


    morons.
    You mean, he throws a lot of punches...and connects against stationary opponents. I mean, God forbid what happens when the opponent moves around. You'll get the Shane Mosley fight.

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    • Originally posted by The_Sandman View Post
      You mean, he throws a lot of punches...and connects against stationary opponents. I mean, God forbid what happens when the opponent moves around. You'll get the Shane Mosley fight.
      Barrera and Morales can't move?

      Cotto can't move?


      Shane ran for his life. What's the point in chasing someone running for their life and risking taking a big shot going in? He was smart strategically. It was a 12-0 whitewash literally. Shane looked like Lionel Ritchie after the fight.

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      • Originally posted by The_Sandman View Post
        You mean, he throws a lot of punches...and connects against stationary opponents. I mean, God forbid what happens when the opponent moves around. You'll get the Shane Mosley fight.
        Wow...what a total hate. Opponents that don't move? Is this the reason why Floyd ducked Margarito and Cotto?

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        • Originally posted by Brockton Lip View Post
          Its not really a good example though to show power or offensive skills.

          People do underrate offense on here but thats also because we currently have better defensive boxers than offensive ones. If a Mike Tyson type comes along again and starts talking about offense and KO's, you can guarantee that people will be on here talking about how offense wins fights and is better.
          It was not meant as an example of power or skill. It was in response to a poster that said he couldn't KO anybody.

          When Mayweather said "Defense" he obviously didn't mean defense with no offense. He meant hit and not get hit. So again it's stupid to imply that Mayweather wins without offensive skills.

          A fighter who can fight inside or out, on the front or backfoot has offensive skills no matter how you spin it.
          Last edited by joseph5620; 01-05-2012, 01:24 PM.

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          • What if a boxer has a great chin and has never touched the canvas? Does that mean all his opponents have bad offense because they could not KO him?

            Does Shane Mosley have better offense then Pacquiao because his POWER led to a KO over Margarito?

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            • Originally posted by Chups View Post
              Wow...what a total hate. Opponents that don't move? Is this the reason why Floyd ducked Margarito and Cotto?
              Floyd dismantled the guy who obliterated Margarito. And you cant ignore Bob Arum as a factor as to why those fights didn't happen. Margarito should not be mentioned as being on any elite welterweight's level because he's looked subpar in every big fight he's had since the handwrap scandal. Cotto would've been a good win for Floyd though and I believe that fight would have happened if Cotto had been a free agent or a goldenboy fighter.

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              • Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA View Post
                What if a boxer has a great chin and has never touched the canvas? Does that mean all his opponents have bad offense because they could not KO him?

                Does Shane Mosley have better offense then Pacquiao because his POWER led to a KO over Margarito?


                you are mentally ******ed.

                seek help.

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                • Originally posted by Rassclot View Post
                  He had no offense.

                  Look at his KO ratio. That is a testiment to his commitment to coast to decisions and his lack of power. Period.


                  #'s don't lie.
                  /thread. waste of time.

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                  • Originally posted by Rassclot View Post
                    He had no offense.

                    Look at his KO ratio. That is a testiment to his commitment to coast to decisions and his lack of power. Period.


                    #'s don't lie.
                    Okay so you are saying if a boxer's KO ratio is low then he has no power. The number of knockouts is a "testiment" (not a real word BTW) of a boxers power.

                    Originally posted by Rassclot View Post
                    nobody said it's solely based on power.

                    FIRE POWER+Speed are the most important aspect of offense.

                    If you have no power, you don't have great offense. PERIOD.


                    It's like a defensive fighter with no head movement.
                    What you don't understand is "power" is subjective to the opponents chin. If you had a feather fisted boxer who knocks out a glass chinned guy one day, and the next he barely hurts an iron chinned fighter, Did his offense magically begin to suck? Even if he connected with the same amount of punches? Of course not. Using your logic Shane Mosley (and maybe Miguel Cotto) is the only guy Margarito ever fought that had a great offense. He is the only guy who scored a knock out. And as you said #'s don't lie. Pacquiao did not score a knock out over Margarito SO using your brilliant logic Shane Mosley has better offense then Pacquiao.



                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                    Call me a dumbass again, or anyone else in this thread and see what happens.


                    Originally posted by Rassclot View Post
                    you are mentally ******ed.

                    seek help.
                    You are just name calling because you realize you dug a very deep hole. Enjoy your ban.

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                    • Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA View Post
                      Okay so you are saying if a boxer's KO ratio is low then he has no power. The number of knockouts is a "testiment" (not a real word BTW) of a boxers power.



                      What you don't understand is "power" is subjective to the opponents chin. If you had a feather fisted boxer who knocks out a glass chinned guy one day, and the next he barely hurts an iron chinned fighter, Did his offense magically begin to suck? Even if he connected with the same amount of punches? Of course not. Using your logic Shane Mosley (and maybe Miguel Cotto) is the only guy Margarito ever fought that had a great offense. He is the only guy who scored a knock out. And as you said #'s don't lie. Pacquiao did not score a knock out over Margarito SO using your brilliant logic Shane Mosley has better offense then Pacquiao.









                      You are just name calling because you realize you dug a very deep hole. Enjoy your ban.



                      all i hear is a woman crying about how hitting hard isn't important in a combat sport.



                      it's okay girl. don't worry about it. you won't understand.

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