Right now who has the better resume Andre Ward or Vitali Klitschko?

[DARKSEID]

It's close, but at this point in ward's career,I'd lean more toward klitschko having the more solid resume, but Ward is gonna surpass him pretty soon. There are no fights left for klitschko and many fights and many tests for ward.

[Mr. Invincible]

He's one fighter away from cleaning out a division. Vitali's never done that. And Carl Froch? Hello? Froch only had one of the best and toughest runs in the sport going into the Ward fight.

That this is a discussion says more about Vitali's level of competition, because it is a legit discussion. You can't just say "Vitali's been fighting longer" and leave it at that, because he has very few fighters, if any at all, that compare to Kessler or Froch.

Vitali has been fighting all title fights before Ward was a pro. If it weren't for retiring Vitali would be the Ring champion and would have probably about 8-10 more title defenses. At this point with Ward having a couple good solid smw wins does it make this a serious discussion. Not to mention the fact that Vitali shares noteable wins with Wladimir.

[Mr. Invincible]

Also, why not try comparing him to somebody with similar title fight experience, such as Sergio Martinez or something? How about another smw such as Kessler? That makes more sense than comparing Ward to Vitali.

[cupocity303]

Also, why not try comparing him to somebody with similar title fight experience, such as Sergio Martinez or something? How about another smw such as Kessler? That makes more sense than comparing Ward to Vitali.

Yeah, I'm not sure what kind of an agenda TS had with this comparison. It makes about as much sense as comparing a Cat to an Elephant.

[ИATAS]

Vitali has been fighting all title fights before Ward was a pro. If it weren't for retiring Vitali would be the Ring champion and would have probably about 8-10 more title defenses. At this point with Ward having a couple good solid smw wins does it make this a serious discussion. Not to mention the fact that Vitali shares noteable wins with Wladimir.

it's not just about the number of title defenses it's about the names on the resume. Sven Ottke had 21 title defenses. So by your logic Ottke >>> Ward, Klitschko, Hopkins, et al.

I mean it's not Vitali's fault the HW division is absolutely dreadful, he's doing what he's supposed to do (win) but the fact is the guys he's defended against are for the most part, pretty damn weak.

[Pugilistic™]

It's pretty close imo but i rate Ward's more quality opponents ( Kessler, Froch) over Vitali's ( Adamek, Peter,etc).

Vitali has the better longevity though.

When it's all said and done for both fighters, i think Ward will have the better resume clearly.

[THE REED]

Ward by a close margin... Ward has better talent and bigger names on his resume, Vitali has longer standing depth... I like the talent Ward has beaten over the depth of Vitali's resume.

[Ringlife]

I would favor Ward here he just won the super six the only guy I give credit to Vitali fighting is Lennox Lewis when he filled in as a late replacement which was a HW classic fight.

[New England]

in klistchko's defense you can only fight the guys in your division

both brothers together have fought virtually everybody
if one fought a guy the other stopped, it would be seen as leftovers, etc


that being said, ward has fought a caliber of opponent in his SS run unlike any that klitschko faced other than the two who defeated him (lewis and byrd)

the SS was a hell of a run
vitali has never been on anything like that.

arguments about the validity of vitali's resume aside, he is the more proven fighter in my eyes at this stage given his longevity in his two runs.

the guy has hardly lost a round outside of the lewis fight


still, when some of your best victories are an obese odlanier solis blowing a knee out and getting bonked on the head
and a victory over thomas adamek
or a beatdown of kirk johnson
or a similarly chubby chris arreola,

you see where the criticism of his resume comes from. he's also unable to secure the best win of his career, his likely victory over his brother if they ever fought.

abstract, certainly, valid to the degree that we're not really sure what the klitschkos are made of because they cant fight their best competition and sort it out.

[Mr. Invincible]

it's not just about the number of title defenses it's about the names on the resume. Sven Ottke had 21 title defenses. So by your logic Ottke >>> Ward, Klitschko, Hopkins, et al.

I mean it's not Vitali's fault the HW division is absolutely dreadful, he's doing what he's supposed to do (win) but the fact is the guys he's defended against are for the most part, pretty damn weak.

I'm afraid a two meaningful fight career doesn't overrate Vitali's almost undefeated 13-2 title fight career. The guys Vitali have beaten are not considered special because they aren't passing around belts in close fights. They get annihilated by one of the brothers before they can make themselves a name. Adamek is as good of a win as anyone on Wards resume alone.

Oh, and as you should know, Hopkins has more title defenses than that partner.