Has any boxer dominated Bernard and Hopkins talent like Roy did.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Wow, guess you're not big on bhops resume then.

That loss of speed is more crucial to some fighters than others. But i can see how you love roy and are perfectly happy to create arbitrary guidelines to apply that benefit him when you want to slob his knob a little more. No biggie, its called "what fanboys do".

Rocky marciano and joe calzaghe didnt lose once they got old.

Also Hopkins hasn't suffered a huge decline in his physical abilities.

Calzaghe and Marciano retired before they got too old.

[ИATAS]

Well, to me Hop never showed he could beat Roy. Years later when Hop was beating a much smaller Trinidad, Roy was beating a heavyweight after going through three more divisions. Hop still at 160 beating guys much smaller than him and loosing to Jermain Taylor.

Hopkins was 40 years old by the time he finally lost to taylor (how old was roy when he got KTFO twice in a row? probably not a good idea to bring up age and compare who was doing what).

I don't care if you don't think hopkins would have ever beat roy or not, I'm not going to argue because it's impossible to know. My two very simple points were - jones didn't dominate hopkins and hopkins (and jones) were not in their primes when they fought.

[NChristo]

Rocky marciano and joe calzaghe didnt lose once they got old.

Rocky retired at the right time though, wouldn't say he fought much past his prime or as an 'old' man.

[KiloTeague]

What gets lost in his resume is that he went from 160 to win a heavyweight championship. Something that hasnt been done in over 100 years. This effectively makes his resume an A+. Especially when you figure in a four division champ. He beat the best 160 pounder. He beat the best 168 pounder. He didnt beat Darius, but he would of. Then he won the heavy weight championship as a natural 168-175lb fighter. Let Pac go win 175 or Floyd go win 175, thats the equivalent. But they cant do that. Floyd wont even go to 160, and neither will Pac, cause its "too much weight". Give Roy the credit for going 40lbs outside his own weight!!! And then DOMINATING that heavyweight.

[KiloTeague]

Hopkins was 40 years old by the time he finally lost to taylor (how old was roy when he got KTFO twice in a row? probably not a good idea to bring up age and compare who was doing what).

I don't care if you don't think hopkins would have ever beat roy or not, I'm not going to argue because it's impossible to know. My two very simple points were - jones didn't dominate hopkins and hopkins (and jones) were not in their primes when they fought.

Hopkins was 27 when he fought Roy, he was in his physical prime. He may have become more savey, but he got weaker, and slower after that.

[joesaiditstrue]

Zab won the first four rounds against floyd and knocked him down (didnt get counted) Oscar was a split descison. Roy won 8rounds to four. Thats a wider margin than either of Floyds fights especially since his fight with Bernard was in the bag from the start. The rounds that Bernard won, was mainly from Roy resting and playing it safe. Bernard didnt take any rounds from Roy, they were given to him.

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[ИATAS]

What gets lost in his resume is that he went from 160 to win a heavyweight championship. Something that hasnt been done in over 100 years.

Yes that's a cool accomplishment but we must remember it wasn't THE heavyweight champ of the world it was John Ruiz, same guy James Toney beat up. John Ruiz. John Ruiz! If there is ever going to be a former MW beating a heavyweight, Ruiz is the guy to do it against (as shown again by Toney). So yeah, while it's a cool accomplishment it's not like Jones beat Lewis or something crazy like that.

Floyd wont even go to 160, and neither will Pac, cause its "too much weight". Give Roy the credit for going 40lbs outside his own weight!!! And then DOMINATING that heavyweight.

Floyd came from 130 pounds and Pacquiao 108 pounds, man.

[Spray_resistant]

Hopkins was at his best and prime, huh? Is that why a year and a half later he got a draw with Segundo Mercado? The very same Mercado who went 1-8-1 after that point?

James Toney was at his best? Is that why he had been struggling to make weight and had fought several over the limit fights between the time he won the 168 title and the time he faced Jones? Is that why he moved up his next fight and lost to a fighter with 14 fights?

Roy and Bernard were at about the same level of pro experience and as for Toney having weight issues we can't penalize Roy because its Toney's obligation to keep that in order.

[hugh grant]

RJJ had great wins over BH and TOney. The thing is it seems to be at a time when BH wasnt considered all that. And James Toney made a ton of excuses why he didnt perform so even excuses take away from RJJ in a way, undeservingly.

There was a time when RJJ seriously was the man, along what Pac is now. But RJJ considers Pac better than himself.

[ИATAS]

Hopkins was 27 when he fought Roy, he was in his physical prime. He may have become more savey, but he got weaker, and slower after that.

hopkins was not in his prime when he fought roy, simple as that. He wasn't weaker and slower in 1996, 1997, & 1998, that's for sure.