Grade Roy Jones' resume

[Mr. Invincible]

Just like Marion Jones, Roy Jones was a cheat and a steroid abuser, like Mosley his resume is worthless before he got caught.

Wake up guys, stop talking up cheats who robbed the fans of genuine, clean and fair contests.

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That's taking it a little far. Jones tested positive for a banned substance but it wasn't a steroid. It was an ingredient that was in over the counter 'ripped fuel' that he used to cut weight before that fight. Just because he tested positive once for that kind of substance doesn't mean anything he achieved before is irrelevant. That's not fair.

That's like saying Hatton did coke his whole career and that's why he was so energetic and successfull.

[Walt Liquor]

If that is indeed the case, he would've been KO'ed by Tarver in the first fight. A fight where he took many more lefts and sustained plenty of punishment for 12 rounds. Jones was slipping--and Tarver is a pretty hard hitter.

Not you too now. Ugh. Ok, you and reed can have that roy had the best chin ever along with whatever else.

I mean, roy's not the first dude to get ko'd in a rematch. Doesnt mean his chin went to shi t in one fight. Im thinking you havent read all my posts.


Twas asinine to fight glen 4 months later.

[Mr. Invincible]

he's fucking shite. is that better?

If that's what you really think you need to either go back and look at some actual prime Jones fights or follow another sport. I don't think you know the 1st thing about boxing and even less about Roy Jones.

[IMDAZED]

Not you too now. Ugh. Ok, you and reed can have that roy had the best chin ever along with whatever else.

I mean, roy's not the first dude to get ko'd in a rematch. Doesnt mean his chin went to shi t in one fight. Im thinking you havent read all my posts.


Twas asinine to fight glen 4 months later.

Not sure when I said he had the greatest chin but ok. The bottom line is that if it took 50-some odd fights (many of them championship fights) through four divisions to find out how good it was then he must've been the greatest defensive fighter ever. But we know that's not the case.

[Mr. Invincible]

To the dudes who say roy was the best ever in his prime pfp, you really think no one pdp wouldhave been able to get to that chin? So speed power annd that roy had, but he has a suspect chin.


And i love how he was over the hill for tarver now.

I do agree that roy's res > floyds though.

It was obvious that prime Roy was long gone in the first Tarver fight and he still won. The ko's afterwards was just window dressing. The superman had left the building by then.

[Mr. Invincible]

With that said... did you SEE the punch Roy got knocked out with?

A left handed bomb that landed right on his jaw line... that punch would of sat down damn near anyone in the division.

Why is it when someone gets knocked out they always had a weak chin? Anyone can get hit with the right punch and get sat down... and WITH THAT Roy STILL got his ass up by 10... a bit too late and he was stopped rightfully so... but that punch would of dropped anyone.

Fighting Johnson 4 months later was a terrible move.

That's not even mentioning that prime Roy doesn't even get clipped with that shot. He was too fast in and out and never laid on the ropes for any length of time.

[Walt Liquor]

Not sure when I said he had the greatest chin but ok. The bottom line is that if it took 50-some odd fights (many of them championship fights) through four divisions to find out how good it was then he must've been the greatest defensive fighter ever. But we know that's not the case.

im talking about vs the greatest pfp punchers/fighters of all time. there are fighters who could have taken that punch, prime or not.

at the highest levels of the game, his chin is suspect. hence, i don't think he's pfp the greatest fighter of all time in his prime. i do think he could have been beaten. by a few people.

[IMDAZED]

im talking about vs the greatest pfp punchers/fighters of all time. there are fighters who could have taken that punch, prime or not.

at the highest levels of the game, his chin is suspect. hence, i don't think he's pfp the greatest fighter of all time in his prime. i do think he could have been beaten. by a few people.

But what is your basis? One fight after 15 years, 50+ fights that occurred at the age of 35? That's terribly faulty.

[Walt Liquor]

But what is your basis? One fight after 15 years, 50+ fights that occurred at the age of 35? That's terribly faulty.

1) once he felt like he wasn't the man, he mentally broke before he really physically broke down all the way. I mean, the chin just falls apart even though he never really got hit clean before. But in an all time prime pfp discussion, im supposed to believe a guy like tyson, srr, ali, hagler etc can't tap him or discourage him?
2) Roy didn't get chin checked like that in the first fight with Tarver.

He comes back down from HW and just falls apart but we all give him a pass...in an all time sense.

Nope.

[IMDAZED]

1) once he felt like he wasn't the man, he mentally broke before he really physically broke down all the way. I mean, the chin just falls apart even though he never really got hit clean before. But in an all time prime pfp discussion, im supposed to believe a guy like tyson, srr, ali, hagler etc can't tap him or discourage him?

If you truly believe he never really got hit before in his 15 year career than I can't help you.

2) Roy didn't get chin checked like that in the first fight with Tarver.

Like what? he got chin checked plenty in that fight, check round 8. Hard straight left to his jaw stands him up and hurts him. He ate a lot of shots that fight...and in his career that you obviously missed.

He comes back down from HW and just falls apart but we all give him a pass...in an all time sense.

He was 35 when he suffered his first defeat. Not exactly 25.