How many fighters on Ali's resume could beat the Klitschkos?

[Mr. Invincible]

There's a lot of debate on how Vitali or Wladimir could beat any HW in history. I'm just narrowing this to opponents that Ali faced. What do you guys think? I'll take a few minutes then reply myself.

Personally, I don't think any. Holmes was the closest thing in my opinion.

[Mr. Invincible]

frazer would kill both of em

Frazier was way too one dimensional and small to compete with the current Klitschko's I'm afraid.

[Vadrigar.]

frazer would kill both of em

I think he would knock out wlad but Vitali would last the distance.

[joseph5620]

Frazier was way too one dimensional and small to compete with the current Klitschko's I'm afraid.

Chris Byrd would disagree with you.

[Mr. Invincible]

vitali himself would run the risk of being ko'd in alis era with that fragile skin. you have to remember that both klitschos would QUICKLY find themselves in heated 15 round wars in the 70's. they would ran into a few bums that would have pushed them in this sorta way.

heavyweights were tough as nails in the 70's...............

Losing on cuts is a TKO, but while the 70's heavyweights were tough, they were also smaller and therefore wouldn't be as durable in today's division. The Klitschko's would've dominated at that time as well while battling with Ali, etc.

[joseph5620]

Losing on cuts is a TKO, but while the 70's heavyweights were tough, they were also smaller and therefore wouldn't be as durable in today's division. The Klitschko's would've dominated at that time as well while battling with Ali, etc.

If that's the case how did Foreman and Holmes beat top fighters in their 40s and well past their primes?

[Cutthroat]

Losing on cuts is a TKO, but while the 70's heavyweights were tough, they were also smaller and therefore wouldn't be as durable in today's division. The Klitschko's would've dominated at that time as well while battling with Ali, etc.

Guys like Frazier were in tremendous shape, the guy went 14 rounds in a war with Ali in 107 degree weather with nearly 100 percent humidity these guys were in phenomenal shape. Just because they weren't 240lbs doesn't mean they'd be man handled, most guys today are nothing but fat and that fat doesn't help them at all.

[Mr. Invincible]

If that's the case how did Foreman and Holmes beat top fighters in their 40s and well past their primes?

How is Bernard able to beat them now? There's exceptions to the rule but there was nothing in Foreman's comeback to indicate that he could've dealt with the Klitschko's in their current form. You don't realize that while Foreman was large for his time, he is still small by todays standards. Holmes didn't have a significant win after getting annihilated my Tyson in the 80's while he was still in his 30's.

[The Surgeon]

Losing on cuts is a TKO, but while the 70's heavyweights were tough, they were also smaller and therefore wouldn't be as durable in today's division. The Klitschko's would've dominated at that time as well while battling with Ali, etc.

They had more heart and wouldnt just quit on themselves as easily as todays lads though and im not sure id say the Heavys of today are more durable, Frazier was a little guy and while Foreman swamped him he was as durable as hell, Ali himself was super solid and durable in phase two of his career, Larry Holmes, Tex Cobb, George Chuvalo ect... Just coz guys are sucking up what the Klitchko's are dishing out dont make them super durable, Briggs a big man, took a hell of a beating and stood up to it yet couldnt back in the 90's vs Lewis for example

[Mr. Invincible]

Guys like Frazier were in tremendous shape, the guy went 14 rounds in a war with Ali in 107 degree weather with nearly 100 percent humidity these guys were in phenomenal shape. Just because they weren't 240lbs doesn't mean they'd be man handled, most guys today are nothing but fat and that fat doesn't help them at all.

While I agree that Frazier had stamina for days, he was far from being in awesome shape. If he was to be an opponent for the Klitschko's today, he would be considered one of the 'fat bums of the month'. That's just how it is. Anyone who faces a Klitschko who had a shot before the fight becomes a never was piece of trash after the fight.

Frazier was too small and had a limited skill set to have been able to avoid a brutal KO dealt by either current Klitschko.