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  • #21
    Originally posted by William Blake View Post
    I'll check the box that reads 'killer'
    Just check the box that reads 'MOST DOMINANT BOXER IN HISTORY'... that's the ONLY label that is an actual fit.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
      Watch his early career b4 bYRD.. you'll see bombs getting rid of opponents & trust me son... when Vitali wants to bomb you out of there.. you're getting STOPPED... he went easy on Briggs (a former fishing buddy) once he realized what his goal was & that he was hitting him at will while the ref wasn't doing his job to protect Briggs.. look how he blasted out Kirk Johnson.. Herbie Hide & Odlanier Solis... Danny Williams might've been the walking dead once Vitali was through using him as a ping pong ball. There's 2 Vitali's.. one who gives you a prolonged hospital induced beatdown like he did with a bit of tears shed like he did with Briggs.. Sanders & Areolla & there's a vindictive Vitali who decides he's going to stop you in an instant. If you watched the final rd of Sosnowski.. Gomez & recent victim Adamek... you'll have seen a Vitali who decided he was going to stop you WITHOUT your consent. He stopped Solis & Hide with temple shots & two of this eras most notorious sluggers Peter & Areolla quit because they couldn't stop Vitali from slugging them.. If this ain't a slugger.. I don't know who is.

      Foreman i listed as runnerup.. most of his Ko's were also cumulative mini bombs.. he didn't always stop his opponent with one shot like he did with Moorer. Foreman like Vitali hit you hard with every shot he threw & was a notorious arm puncher.
      Good finisher (and Vitali is a GREAT finisher - even his biggest detractors have to give him that) but that's not the same as being a slugger. There's little subtlety to the slugger's game. I would say that Vitali has a lot of technical intricacies that differentiate him from "sluggers."

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      • #23
        Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
        So who are some of your favorite fighters in some other popular divisions? What is your P4P Top 5 look like?
        Always been enamored with the heavyweight division.. you have the strongest fighters.. none of that pound for pound flyweight.. shet for me.. but that doesn't mean there's no intrigue there as I DO enjoy great fighters.

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        • #24
          vitali is a boxer puncher...if he was a slugger than he would of stood their and slugged with arreola but he didn't

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          • #25
            Originally posted by BigStereotype View Post
            Good finisher (and Vitali is a GREAT finisher - even his biggest detractors have to give him that) but that's not the same as being a slugger. There's little subtlety to the slugger's game. I would say that Vitali has a lot of technical intricacies that differentiate him from "sluggers."
            I guess it's all in the way one defines slugger.. i've given my definition clearly & concisely & it seems to be not equivalent with alot of other poster's defining the term "slugger". You can slug in many different ways... the fact that Vitali is such a great technician while others are just one dimensional sluggers seems to be why he's Not considered one by most of you.. I don't limit slugging to just swinging for the fences on each shot you throw.. I look at slugging in a more expanded view..


            Vitali gets results of a slugger.. he just does it in a variety of ways... apparently everyone here thinks he gets KNOCKOUTS by accident/default & he's in the mold of Joe Calzaghe throwing singles to batter you into submission.. ask ALL of his victims.. let's see if they think his apparent arm punches feels like singles.


            Vitali's punches gets some opponents even scared to throw punches for fear of getting pounded even further. Briggs & Peter & recently Adamek are perfect examples of fighters purposely NOT throwing leather for fear of even more debilitating retaliation by Vitali.... They were content to keep on receiving singles & doubles.. just so they wouldn't feel what a Vitali homerun was like... Think about that for a second... they completely gave up after the FIRST double or triple Vitali landed in the very first rd & decided right then & there that they'd prefer to keep Vitali throwing singles.. despite this method being the most painful in the end.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by $ j-210 $ View Post
              vitali is a boxer puncher...if he was a slugger than he would of stood their and slugged with arreola but he didn't
              This is one of the most ignorant statements i've ever read. He deliberately let Areolla come to him because he knew he'd be coming straight into his punches. He realized Areolla was a one dimensional slugger if there ever was one & devised a brilliant gameplan to thwart him off..


              He also realized Areolla was a swarmer & his specialty was throwing fast combos.. why get into a brawl with him when there were other ways he could outslug him. Trust me.. if Vitali wanted to release his whole arsenal..


              Chris would've been knocked out sooner,,, rather than later because he wouldn't have been able to absorb Vitali's shots while Vitali could've absorbed his but since it wasn't necessary to go there.. you got the tear inducing beatdown instead.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
                LMFAO..... he used a substance in the Olympics for an injury (what else). He learned his lesson by getting whacked from the team. He OBVIOUSLY hasn't used it in the pros..... otherwise he'd be 45 -0. His only 2 defeats could've been avoided with an injection or 2.. His 4 year retirement could've been avoided as well. Trust me A Vitali Klitschko on PEDS would've completely shutdown the heavyweight division.. I wish he would've taken a few injections for the Byrd & Lewis bouts.. then we would've had the REAL outcomes & him being injury free.. forget about it.. Thank your lucky stars Vitali is Not A PROFESSIONAL cheat.. he'd be literally ILLEGAL!
                dude, there are much stricter test in the olympics (the olympics routinely test through blood not urine) THATS WHY HE GOT CAUGHT. till this day vitali is against stricter testing............who's to say he's clean now he won't take another strict olympic test.


                everyone has a f@g story when their caught with riods. in this case vitali lies & claims that it was only for an injury & BLAMES the rest on his doctor LOLOL

                vitali is a CHEATER just like bonds................
                Last edited by americanbot; 12-27-2011, 02:56 AM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
                  I guess it's all in the way one defines slugger.. i've given my definition clearly & concisely & it seems to be not equivalent with alot of other poster's defining the term "slugger". You can slug in many different ways... the fact that Vitali is such a great technician while others are just one dimensional sluggers seems to be why he's Not considered one by most of you.. I don't limit slugging to just swinging for the fences on each shot you throw.. I look at slugging in a more expanded view..


                  Vitali gets results of a slugger.. he just does it in a variety of ways... apparently everyone here thinks he gets KNOCKOUTS by accident/default & he's in the mold of Joe Calzaghe throwing singles to batter you into submission.. ask ALL of his victims.. let's see if they think his apparent arm punches feels like singles.


                  Vitali's punches gets some opponents even scared to throw punches for fear of getting pounded even further. Briggs & Peter & recently Adamek are perfect examples of fighters purposely NOT throwing leather for fear of even more debilitating retaliation by Vitali.... They were content to keep on receiving singles & doubles.. just so they wouldn't feel what a Vitali homerun was like... Think about that for a second... they completely gave up after the FIRST double or triple Vitali landed in the very first rd & decided right then & there that they'd prefer to keep Vitali throwing singles.. despite this method being the most painful in the end.
                  I guess if you expand the definition to the extent that you are, sure. Vitali's a slugger. But "slugger" has a pretty specific definition in boxing lore, it's not just something us forum jockeys made up.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by americanbot View Post
                    dude, there are much stricter test in the olympics (the olympics routinely test through blood not urine) THATS WHY HE GOT CAUGHT. till this day vitali is against stricter testing............


                    everyone has a f@g story when their caught with riods. in this case vitali lies & claims that it was only for an injury & BLAMES the rest on his doctor LOLOL

                    vitali is a CHEATER just like bonds................
                    Funny... i was waiting for David Haye to do some accusing but apparently you beat him to it.. I'll just say the ultimate comp is when someone accuses you of pill popping without any substantial & or circumstantial evidence.. just lets the fighter know he got to you.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
                      Funny... i was waiting for David Haye to do some accusing but apparently you beat him to it.. I'll just say the ultimate comp is when someone accuses you of pill popping without any substantial & or circumstantial evidence.. just lets the fighter know he got to you.
                      I'm not accusing, his history of roiding tagged along with the fact that he's against stricter testing doesn't sit well..........

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