BTW, Berto is winning the rematch, you heard it here first!!

[Bushbaby]

funny how you guys agree on berto winning but have different ways of how or why..i am not saying ortiz will win,but i think he has the upper hand by beating berto the first time,also berto giving up that crappy title to fight against ortiz makes more sense financially for him,it wasn't a decision he made but his promoter and managers made for him...i dont have anything againgst you of course,but i just dont like how people say things like they have a crystal ball..they are fighting each other because its the fight that will make more money for both of them,or u think pacquiao,martinez ,khan will fight berto or ortiz,(don't worry about weights ,since it doesn't seem to matter anymore)..think about it...

Very good post sir. But I still think that Berto wanted the rematch. There are some fighters that are crushed after a loss, yet their are some that actually benifit from them, I believe that Berto benifited from the loss has gotten his conditioning up to world class level & will win the fight as such.

Furthermore in a boxing era where fighters are not willing to avenge losses, I will not try to codemn Berto for taking this rematch. I admire it in fact.

[AlwaysOnTop]

Title says it all, Berto wins the rematch.

I think Berto will get KO'd..

[Derranged]

I don't see what will be so different the second time around.

[immortal tech]

Very good post sir. But I still think that Berto wanted the rematch. There are some fighters that are crushed after a loss, yet their are some that actually benifit from them, I believe that Berto benifited from the loss has gotten his conditioning up to world class level & will win the fight as such.

Furthermore in a boxing era where fighters are not willing to avenge losses, I will not try to codemn Berto for taking this rematch. I admire it in fact.

where did you see this world class level conditioning from Berto? he looked the same to me against Zaveck and Berto had to take the Ortiz fight HBO would not have paid him the million per fight he used to get

[ghost deini]

Berto just wants it badddddd, gave up his title & **** just to make this fight, if that isn't desire, what is??

ehh money maybe

i think more people are favouring berto than ortiz in the rematch from what i've gathered not exactly going out on a limb to favor him

i slightly favor him but for me it's still pretty much 50/50

[Bushbaby]

where did you see this world class level conditioning from Berto? he looked the same to me against Zaveck and Berto had to take the Ortiz fight HBO would not have paid him the million per fight he used to get

I see it in the bet I'm offering you, how much??

[Mr. Philadel]

I've been wrong before and its a good chance I could be wrong again....its up to Berto to prove me wrong...the first time he proved me right...I still see Vic beating him up....like I said, Berto gotta prove me wrong....I don't see him beating Vic...last time, this time or any time imo

[Bushbaby]

I've been wrong before and its a good chance I could be wrong again....its up to Berto to prove me wrong...the first time he proved me right...I still see Vic beating him up....like I said, Berto gotta prove me wrong....I don't see him beating Vic...last time, this time or any time imo

Well then, make sure that you tune in homey!!

[ghost deini]

anybody else think this fight could end up being an anti climax

i mean we'll all getting excited to see it because of how the first one turned out but in truth no one foresaw that being so epic and it was only really that way because ortiz was so determined and brought the fight to berto

berto's is gonna try and flurry then hold way more in this fight i think he may even outpoint him doing that

that being said the last few outings from both fighters have been fun to watch i just think we may be carried away thinking it could be as good if not better than the first but it may not play out like that

[immortal tech]

I see it in the bet I'm offering you, how much??

bet is nice and all but did you actually see this new and improved Berto with world class conditioning in a fight or training/sparing video? guy looks exactly the same boxer who got tired after the 6th