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  • AlwaysOnTop
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    #31
    Originally posted by dancovboxer
    Time you guys gave Sergio his respect?
    All I see is hate for this guy yet he has fought so many guys, ploughed through them in destructive fashion and I see no respect?

    You're all keen to jump on the bandwagon for these overhyped prospects who in reality are very mediocre. You say this guys a ducker but he has fought some bad ass dudes when given no chance. Can you blame him for wanting a bid payday?

    He had the balls to fight the guys nobody elses dared!

    You sit there & protect ****hawk A & B ''They are too small, Sergio should fight so & so multiple divisions above''
    You cry Sergio is picking on smaller guys but you are calling the guy a fraud unless he fights guys that are huge compared - IMO that makes you a hypocrite!

    You all wrote Barker off, I said this guy is very underrated, Sergio is in for a tough night & you laughed! I said Barker has way way better tools than Dzinziruk, instead of giving props you said Sergio was a bum, Barker took a dive, etc

    This forums fcuked, it's like unless he beats Ward who you'll say is green or something he won't get his due. Give him his respect guys and enjoy him whilst he is prime as he is exciting & lets not talk Pirog who is a ****ing bum that Martinez puts in a coma.





    See that? he DESTROYS Chavez Jr, Sturm, Geale & Co, that is a fact
    I'm not buying any of it..

    Ya'll talk about this guy like he's Hagler or some shi.t.

    Who did he fight that nobody else would??

    Paul Williams?..

    Sharmba Mitchell fought him too....why give Sergio the medal of honor for the same shi.t????

    Brian Barker broke his nose and had him FALLING IN OFF BALANCE LIKE A ROOKIE.

    I notice shi.t like that...

    Martinez falls-in with his hands by his balls...He can't fight moving foreward worth a damn.

    He will be in a world of trouble when he faces a boxer-puncher...

    Sergio has stanima issues...leaky defense...and cannot fight an entire round...


    In my opinion..Martinez is there to be had..
    Last edited by AlwaysOnTop; 12-25-2011, 09:21 AM.

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    • AlwaysOnTop
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      #32
      Originally posted by hougigo
      No... what they'll use to sell the fight, IMO what they would try, is the whole Margo being a Villain and Sergio out to avenge his first loss. IMO, don't really know how else, although I'm sure there are other ways. Avenging a loss from a decade ago isn't as bad as other people because Margo is still a character of note. He's on a losing streak, but he's still out there as opposed to the people who lost once to some nobody who later faded into the darkness.
      Sergio might as well try.... I mean all he's been doing lately is calling Canelo, Pacquiao, Mayweather and JCC Jr. pussies.
      This is all my opinion by the way
      (IMO= in my opinion)
      He's calling guys BELOW him pu.ssies.

      Let's see Sergio call Andre Ward a pu.ssy...

      Call Froch a puss.y

      Abraham is at 160 again...call him a pu.ssy.

      If anybody is a twa.t...it's Sergio Martinez' old tired azz..

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        #33
        Originally posted by vacon04
        Martinez started his career at 147 and now he's at 160. Only 8 lbs above? Really? 8 pounds is a lot when we're talking about boxing. Martinez max weight on fight night is about 165, while Ward or Bute are 168 on the weight in and would be 175+ on fight night so we're talking about a 10+ lbs difference at least. And no, it's not the same if he went down to fight Mayweather Jr for example since Martinez weight about 165 right now when he's fighting at the 160 division, however if he went down to 154 he would be around 160 on fight night. Let's remember that Martinez usually gets at the weight in at around 158, not even the 160 limit.
        And Pacquiao started his career at 106 and Mayweather at 130. Pacquiao and Mayweather walk around at welterweight. They are small welterweights who can both make LWW or even LW.

        Martinez cuts to MW and would cut a bit more to LMW. Pacquiao and Mayweather wouldn't even weigh 154 at the weigh ins let alone fight night. The point I'm trying to make is that he is a hypocrite. A great boxer but a whiny hypocrite.

        I understand he wants a big pay day but if he did not cut weight like Pac/May, he would be a SMW naturally just like Pac/May are natural WW.

        Pavlik is a giant MW and walks around at 180/85 so he is around the same size as Ward/Bute. Hopkins walks around at 80/85 as well. If we make the example that Margarito is the same size as Martinez then we got to do the same with Hopkins/Ward/Bute all being the same size as Pavlik.

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        • loui_ludwig
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          #34
          I gave Sergio his full credit but his not exactly fighting top competitions lately. He has the balls to call out Pac and May to go up in weight to fight him but he can't do that against the smw. Don't give the crap about his to small for smw and his just a bi jr. mw.

          You can bash Pac about fighting JMM and whoever you have winning but at least Pac fought a higher caliber than Sergio's last opponent.

          I do understand that he wants to call out the 2 mega stars due to his age and wants a big pay day. But Pac already stated that 154 is too big for him and only willing to fight at 150 limit. May only fought once but has no intentions of going up in weight.

          Sergio has other options though and that is to go up in weight. Sergio can beat Bute with his speed and movement. And after seeing Froch's performance against Ward, Sergio has a chance. Sergio can also beat the slow ones in the name of Abraham and Kessler.

          Also, the WBC said Chavez jr. must face Sergio. Well do you think WBC will force Jr.? Hell no, WBC said jr. can face Rubio. Golden Boy is not willing to face Canelo Alvarez against Sergio. GBP might said their willing to give the best fights but just like Arum, their gonna milk him for now.

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          • golden247
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            #35
            Originally posted by dancovboxer
            Because it's also about money. Pirog is not a draw as much as his fans/you/eastern euro's wants to make out.
            Macklin & Barker have a big Irish/U.K following & Dzinziruk sold a lot due to his 37-0 record and how well the card was put together.

            Mark my words, Pirog who I betted on to beat Jacobs (big underdog) would be very lucky to even see off the above mentioned, nevermind Sergio.

            His best win is over Jacobs, who was green and whateever else, he isn't a legit contender no matter what worthless belt he holds. Just a robotic stiff shooting his mouth off for a payday.; Martinez sparks that boy way way easier than he did Barker.
            talk about pirog wanting a payday, Martinez is the bětch shouting odds at the two cash cows of boxing! He beat an exorcised ghost in pavlik, the guy hasn't been the same since Bhop beat his ass (that's a FACT!) and ontop of that old man popkins did a better job in beating pavlik! Williams was always overrated! Quintana beat him first! Carlos bloody quintana of all people, as for dzinziruk a bum who hid away in Europe his whole career padding his record. Sergio is good but he ain't P4P so convince yourself, but as you can see many others, myself included are not. As far as barkers concerned the Brits have never had him as anything special so don't try and convince anybody otherwise.

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              #36
              Originally posted by AlwaysOnTop
              I'm not buying any of it..

              Ya'll talk about this guy like he's Hagler or some shi.t.

              Who did he fight that nobody else would??

              Paul Williams?..

              Sharmba Mitchell fought him too....why give Sergio the medal of honor for the same shi.t????

              Brian Barker broke his nose and had him FALLING IN OFF BALANCE LIKE A ROOKIE.

              I notice shi.t like that...

              Martinez falls-in with his hands by his balls...He can't fight moving foreward worth a damn.

              He will be in a world of trouble when he faces a boxer-puncher...

              Sergio has stanima issues...leaky defense...and cannot fight an entire round...


              In my opinion..Martinez is there to be had..
              Not too sure about the stamina issues but completely agree with everything else.

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              • kiaba360
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                #37
                I don't understand why Pirog's name is thrown around as if he's the savior of this division. I'd rather see Martinez face the likes of Sturm/Geale/JCC Jr. before he fights Pirog who has a belt, but doesn't have any name value.

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                • mushahadeen
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                  #38
                  Stop ducking JCC JR.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                    He drew Cintron and then lost to williams

                    His resume is NOT strong. He is simply living over his 2 wins against Pavlik and Williams. He has by far the weakest resume in the top 10
                    please, he ko'd cintron, got jobbed and beat him 9 rounds to 3...that decision was a gift to Cintron by far. The decision for Williams to win was also a gift too...we saw what happened in the rematch.

                    Martinez has beaten the best US MW's, the best English MW, and the best Ukrainian MW. I say his resume is hands down the best in the world at MW.

                    The guy puts on a show every time out too

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by AlwaysOnTop
                      I'm not buying any of it..

                      Ya'll talk about this guy like he's Hagler or some shi.t.

                      Who did he fight that nobody else would??

                      Paul Williams?..

                      Sharmba Mitchell fought him too....why give Sergio the medal of honor for the same shi.t????

                      Brian Barker broke his nose and had him FALLING IN OFF BALANCE LIKE A ROOKIE.

                      I notice shi.t like that...

                      Martinez falls-in with his hands by his balls...He can't fight moving foreward worth a damn.

                      He will be in a world of trouble when he faces a boxer-puncher...

                      Sergio has stanima issues...leaky defense...and cannot fight an entire round...


                      In my opinion..Martinez is there to be had..
                      Well, then I'm glad my life doesn't depend on your opinion,lol. So easy to beat, yet these professional athletes can't do shizz about it but lose.

                      Facing a boxer-puncher, lmao.....that is precisely what he has been fighting

                      and.............it was Darren Barker, not Brian

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