Comments Thread For: Ward Rises: The BoxingScene Pound-for-Pound Update

[trainhard_187]

Andre Ward has fought better opposition, lately, than Manny Pacquiao and Sergio Martinez. And Sergio has not been fighting bums either. Manny, we all know the story of who he's been fighting "at the right time".

The top P4P list should be 1. Mayweather, 2. Marquez, 3. Ward, 4. Martinez, 5. Donaire, 6. Wlad, 7. Bradley, 8. Moreno, 9. Vitali, 10. Maybe Pacquiao, but I rather see some one like Gamboa there. Fuck Pacquiao. Shouldn't be on the list at all.

You dont know boxing then if Pac aint on that list. Marquez at #2 *laughs* dude fell short.. Bradley? really.. Wow.. Martinez over Donaire.. What an embarrassing list..

[ShoulderRoll]

Abner Mares deserves to be on the list. He won the bantamweight version of the "Super Six" and an argument can be made that his resume is better than Anselmo Moreno's (who also deserves to be on the list.)

[EAAE]

Top 4 p4p are manny , mayWeather , martinez and marquez in that order .

Disagree and your either blind , ignorant or mentally challenged


ITS PLAIN BIASED TO HAVE WARD EVEN IN THE TOP 5 .

DONAIRE , VITALI, WLADIMIR , GAMBOA , HOPKINS AND WARDS COMES LAST AT TEN

wow seriously??? you give no credit to Ward for beating the best fighters of his division in their PRIME but credit Manny as the top P4P fighter for beating up weight drained old coming off losses washed up fighters? possibly under the influence??? No, no bias at all with that, go to sleep idiot.

[New England]

If Chemito was naturally 6'6"-250 lbs, he would beat them both embarrassingly.

I guess that makes me a Klitschko hater, does it ?

Find out what P4P actually means.

Actually, stop obsessing about it, P4P is completely irrelevant.

Divisional supremacy is what counts, and the K's are rock-stars in that field.

if chemito were that big he'd be the complete fighter

if he were that size he'd be a big puncher given his athletic quality.
he'd be a butter southpaw with a top notch defense and a knockout punch and a good chin.

as it stands the guy looks pretty damn flawless and has for a while now.
he's not really a knockout puncher, but that's really not something you can knock him for given that the guy is a goddamn bantamweight.
those body shots look nice. its possible that he could change a fight//make a comeback through attrition and those body shots.

still, though, the klitschko brothers are both great boxers
it's a shame vitali had such an odd career, as i believe him to be the better of the two with his chin and coolness under fire.
he did lose to the two best fighters he fought.

they are both at least competative with pretty much any HW you can think of. i'm not saying they will win

i have no issues at all with wladimir being in the top 10 p4p

against men of his size he's the most dominant fighter on the planet right now

and as for vitali, i have no beef with him in the tenth spot. he's coming off of a very good win when he not only beat up but gave a boxing lesson to thomas adamek, and the top ten right now gets a bit light after seven or so to be honest.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Wlad and Wonjongkam should be top 5

Mares should be top 10 ahead of Moreno

[MrSillery]

So Ward beat someone who wasn't even in the top 10 P4P and that make him jump from #9 to #5 ????

Ward is great
Ward is a top 10 P4P
I thinlk that sooner than later, he'll deserve to be in the top 5 P4P.... but not now, it's too early

... remember that some people use to put Dawson in the top 5 P4P...and he lost to PASCAL who isn't a great fighter ( LHW division is weak)

[bojangles1987]

So Ward beat someone who wasn't even in the top 10 P4P and that make him jump from #9 to #5 ????

Ward is great
Ward is a top 10 P4P
I thinlk that sooner than later, he'll deserve to be in the top 5 P4P.... but not now, it's too early

... remember that some people use to put Dawson in the top 5 P4P...and he lost to PASCAL who isn't a great fighter ( LHW division is weak)

I feel Froch should have been p4p top 10 going into the Ward fight. He had earned it in my eyes.

[LeadUppercut]

Abner Mares deserves to be on the list. He won the bantamweight version of the "Super Six" and an argument can be made that his resume is better than Anselmo Moreno's (who also deserves to be on the list.)

I agree, but I got him slightly ahead of Mares because of his style.

[jrosales13]

Mares doesn't have a better resume than Moreno.

And, the only reason that Mares won the "version of the S6" is because it wasn't the S6 it was just 4 and Moreno wasn't invited. He would have been if it was actually the version of 168 S6.

I don't care where anyone wants to rank them P4P....But, at 118 Mares doesn't deserve to be ranked ahead of Moreno.

[ShoulderRoll]

And, the only reason that Mares won the "version of the S6" is because it wasn't the S6 it was just 4 and Moreno wasn't invited.

Regardless, Mares won the tournament. And has performed well against the likes of Yonnhy Perez, Vic Darchinyan, and Joseph Agbeko (twice.)

If you ask me that resume compares favorably against Chemito's.