Comments Thread For: Ward Rises: The BoxingScene Pound-for-Pound Update

[jrosales13]

Any P4P list that has Moreno in the top 10 is a good list for me.

Hopefully Roman Gonzalez can step it up a little bit. Maybe with that rumor HBO BAD Card opener against Viloria and he can join Chemito on the list.

[bojangles1987]

Bradley should be on there before Hopkins. Other than that, no complaints, the top 2 will always be a pissing match between fans.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Mayweather
Marquez
Ward
Martinez
Pacquiao
Donaire

Mayweather number 1, don't think I need to explain that.

Marquez number 2. Don't care how the judges had it, Marquez's win over Pacquiao is a much greater accomplishment than any of the other fighters on that list, so I have to put him there. Marquez is a certified 2.

Ward is definitely higher than Martinez, not by much but definitely higher. Beating Froch, Kessler, Bika; winning the Super 6 is slightly better than beating Paul Williams, Cintron, Pavlik, Dzinziruk.

Martinez over Pacquiao because he's fought the better opposition as of late, Pacquiao opting for Marquez was a failed attempt at a cherry pick, I'm not gonna ignore that. Though we didn't ask Martinez to face Barker, I still remember what the consensus was for Pavlik, Paul Williams, Dzinziruk, so major credit to Sergio.

Pacquiao at number 4, he still has solid wins against very good to good fighters, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey. Just has to step up and perform too. He hasn't been performing well.

Donaire number 5, after his win over Montiel he was off for a bit, had promotional issues, fought Narvaez and is in line to fight WV2, not the opposition I expected him to face.

That's pretty much my Top 5.

Now why Pacquiao is number 1, I know it's all opinionated but that I can't respect at all. It's like cherry picking an old Mosley, looking shitty against him and then losing to a LW gets rewarded on here

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Andre Ward was already considered by most one of the better fighters in the world. However, prior to last Saturday’s Super Six final, his record had only one really superlative win. It now has two and in style.

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That list is almost identical to mine, except for #1 and #10.

Great to see my boys Ward and Chemito getting some love.

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Terrible P4P list.

Cliff Rold is a known Klitschko hater. He always tries to bash and discredit the Klitschkos. In the Wlad-Haye pre-fight report card Cliff said "Haye will KO Wlad in 3 rounds". Now he tries to discredit Wlad's dominant shutout win over Haye.

Wlad is #5 on the Ring Magazine P4P list.

Vitali should be right next to Wlad on every P4P list.

If Chemito was naturally 6'6"-250 lbs, he would beat them both embarrassingly.

I guess that makes me a Klitschko hater, does it ?

Find out what P4P actually means.

Actually, stop obsessing about it, P4P is completely irrelevant.

Divisional supremacy is what counts, and the K's are rock-stars in that field.

[komandante]

Ward should be above Marquez who fell short of his fight with Pacquiao. Viloria should be ahead of Segura whom he stopped for the next 5 rankings..

[komandante]

If Chemito was naturally 6'6"-250 lbs, he would beat them both embarrassingly.

I guess that makes me a Klitschko hater, does it ?

Find out what P4P actually means.

Actually, stop obsessing about it, P4P is completely irrelevant.

Divisional supremacy is what counts, and the K's are rock-stars in that field.

Pacquiao is still #1 P4P in most of boxing ratings.

[crold1]

If Chemito was naturally 6'6"-250 lbs, he would beat them both embarrassingly.

I guess that makes me a Klitschko hater, does it ?

Find out what P4P actually means.

Actually, stop obsessing about it, P4P is completely irrelevant.

Divisional supremacy is what counts, and the K's are rock-stars in that field.

I totally agree. That's why Wlad has been #1 here for three years running:

http://www.boxingscene.com/not-pound-pound-champ-champ-2011--44058

My hatred blinds me so much. If only I was a race baiting ass clown, then I'd see the light.

[javysouthpaw]

Ward deserves to be in the top 5. Just because his style may not excite everyone doesn't mean that he is not skilled. In the Froch fight I thought he was entertaining, he stood his ground and stayed active for 12 rounds. Just because he didn't KO Froch doesn't make him featherfisted either. He is no KO artist but he does have some pop.

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1.) Mayweather
2.) Marquez
3.) Ward
4.) Donaire
5.) Martinez
6.) Hopkins
7.) Pacquiao
8.) Bradley
9.) Moreno
10.) Mares

If Bradley, Moreno, and Mares, beat top opponents next up they knock Pacquiao off the list..... which is unlikely..... Mares has a mando, Donaire has moved up and there doesnt appear to be anyone available at bantam for Moreno other than Morel, and who knows whats up with Bradley.

The guys above Pac ALL fight the best opposition, whereas Manny does not.