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If Floyd and Manny fight May 5th and Floyd dominates he is top 15 atg

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  • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
    No disrespect to JMM...But, he still not as great as MAB or EM. But, JMM is an ATG no doubt. He solidified his ATG status with the 3rd Pac fight. No doubt about that...It was probably debatable beforehand. But, after that the debate is over. However, I still have the likes of Barrera and Morales ahead of him.

    And, even though the 3 Mexican Muskateers are ATG's with a doubt. They're right behind the likes of Roy, B-Hop, Floyd, and Pac.

    Doesn't make them any less great though. Pac is a great fighter. It's sad that both fan bases don't respect their favorite fighter rival. These are great fighters here. Beating them means something.
    i agree a bit. i'd have morales in front but jmm and mab are pretty close. overall, they should all go down in history as 3 of mexico's greatest.

    something to think about though...almost all of mab's losses were legit. jmm's weren't

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    • Originally posted by deliveryman View Post
      I'd honestly put him top 10. A win over Martinez at middleweight afterwards puts him top 3.
      Martinez, please..overrate him much.

      I'd put him top 20 easily.

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      • Originally posted by kadyo View Post
        I mean the sum of two sides is always greater than the third, get that?
        even though i believe floyd will beat the dog crap outta pacroid......i wasn't using the triangle theory argument. the agument i was making was how the hell can one NOT RATE a jmm win just as high if not higher than a pacquiao win at ww? jmm outboxed pac in their fight at 140+ so this proves that jmm can more than hold his own at ww. people are overrating a hypothetical pacquiao win and underrating the jmm win.
        Last edited by jaestix1; 12-21-2011, 04:07 AM.

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        • Originally posted by kadyo View Post
          Then shut up and stop talking. LOL
          MEOW HAHAHA. they're both in the discussion for top 25 for me.

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          • Originally posted by jaestix1 View Post
            even though i believe floyd will beat the dog crap outta pacroid......i wasn't using the triangle theory argument. the agument i was making was how the hell can one NOT RATE a jmm win just as high if not higher than a pacquiao win at ww? jmm outboxed pac in their fight at 140+ so this proves that jmm can more than hold his own at ww. people are overrating a hypothetical pacquiao win and underrating the jmm win.
            Because, one would rate a win over Pep higher than a win over Saddler. Even though like I said Saddler is an F'ing ATG no question about it.

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            • Originally posted by jaestix1 View Post
              even though i believe floyd will beat the dog crap outta pacroid......i wasn't using the triangle theory argument. the agument i was making was how the hell can one NOT RATE a jmm win just as high if not higher than a pacquiao win at ww? jmm outboxed pac in their fight at 140+ so this proves that jmm can more than hold his own at ww. people are overrating a hypothetical pacquiao win and underrating the jmm win.
              Styles make fights, that's all I can say.

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              • Originally posted by gauze View Post
                MEOW HAHAHA. they're both in the discussion for top 25 for me.
                Exactly what I was thinking LOL.

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                • Originally posted by kadyo View Post
                  Styles make fights, that's all I can say.
                  strawman/cop-out.....i don't buy that "styles make fights" crap. i'm tired of *******s refusing to give jmm his credit.

                  pacquiao had every advantage on him! the experience of fighting him two times prior, age, speed, power, weight(or so he thought) and bob arum hand picked judges.

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                  • When someone stakes a claim to a boxer to what their rank is in the ATG list, they have to show their list first.

                    And not surprising, a vast majority (mostly the trollers) had none.

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                    • Originally posted by jaestix1 View Post
                      strawman/cop-out.....i don't buy that "styles make fights" crap. i'm tired of *******s refusing to give jmm his credit.

                      pacquiao had every advantage on him! the experience of fighting him two times prior, age, speed, power, weight(or so he thought) and bob arum hand picked judges.
                      Calm da*** down! LOL

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