Would Vitali UNDISPUTED get more respect

[edgarg]

EYE see your point.. eye really do.. but eye also realize that that is only 6.8% of his work.. eye don't think you understand that right now but eye think one day you will.

I think your "eye" sees more than his "eye"........Ayayay.......

[edgarg]

Dude.. you're refreshing.. you talk straight to the point.. you state it as it is & you DON'T get emotional like i tend to do. If haters didn't have those 2 instances ONLY so long they could've held on to the lack of competition bit. The fact that they have thse 2 instances (6.8% of his work) while 93.2 % is absolutely the most dominant a fighter has ever been in winning 43 times.. that's 204 rds vs 15 rds (12 of which he won).. mind bogg;ling how you can hate on something so grate.

It really amuses me to see that Marciano is referred to as an ATG. The guy obviously has just looked at boxrec. He should do it again, and also look at the ages and records of his opponents and his opponent's opponents. As well as read a few well documented books and read a few opinions of the well respected boxing analysts of Marciano's time. Not to mention the connections between the Mafia and Marcianos manager, not to mention that when Marciano was killed in that plane crash he was with the plane's owner, the son of a mafia Don or big shot, with whom he was very "buddy-buddy"...............

[tennishero]

no fighter in history has been as dominant and scary as vitali

[Superflo777]

It really amuses me to see that Marciano is referred to as an ATG. The guy obviously has just looked at boxrec. He should do it again, and also look at the ages and records of his opponents and his opponent's opponents. As well as read a few well documented books and read a few opinions of the well respected boxing analysts of Marciano's time. Not to mention the connections between the Mafia and Marcianos manager, not to mention that when Marciano was killed in that plane crash he was with the plane's owner, the son of a mafia Don or big shot, with whom he was very "buddy-buddy"...............

You're referring to me? I haven't said anything about Marciano's competitiveness or skills, nor I have looked up boxrec. I've only mentioned him as an example of one of very few undefeated ATG's (in comparison to the other guy who was hating Vitali for his 2 losses), and Marciano is a commonly accepted ATG and HOFer, no matter his actual talent.

[Joeyzagz]

The people want ONE CHAMPION. Co-champions is just ghey.

What if Muhammad Ali and George Foreman decided they were going to hold belts together and never fight? It wouldve made the 70's a lot less exciting.


I know the brothers cant help being related to each other, but it will put an asterisk on their legacy.

[jimmy1569]

no fighter in history has been as dominant and scary as vitali

If you're mocking it.... then get to steppin''... if you're being authentic.... ain't that the truth.. son!

I mean... it's ri****u;lous as if the haters think i'm just bringing this out my A$$$.. THERE'S EVERY FACTUAL EVIDENCE YOU CAN FIND THAT STATES HE'S BEAT HIS OPPONENT IN EVERY WHICH WAY IMAGINABLE.. HE'S GOT THE KO RECORD & THE SCORECARDS RECORD... what else is there... is there ANY more legit way to win a boxing match.. Most haters will agree a KO oR winning handily on the scorecards is the 2 most legit ways to winning a boxing match.. OH wait.. according to them winning when your opponent is injured while he's handily schooling you is 3rd on the list. Vitali EVEN has lost in the most questionable of fashions

When he retires NEVER BEEN outboxed.. outslugged.. outscored .. outhrown.. outlanded.. out jabbed.. down on the canvas.. winning 95% of the rds he's fought.. koing 90% of the opponents he's fought... they'll pin it all on the opposition because OBVIOUSLY it's logical to do so.... NOT.... it's ****ing illogical when there's way too much evidence that it's ALL Vitali's fault.. his opponents are all victims & bystanders & are just pretending to be this inept... afterall THEY ARE ALL inept against every & all of there opposition besides Vitali... yeah that's the ticket.

[PlayerKiller]

It is a shame that Wlad can't go for the titles. Prime for Prime Vitali owns Wlad IMO.

[jimmy1569]

The people want ONE CHAMPION. Co-champions is just ghey.

What if Muhammad Ali and George Foreman decided they were going to hold belts together and never fight? It wouldve made the 70's a lot less exciting.


I know the brothers cant help being related to each other, but it will put an asterisk on their legacy.

Blame it on greedy promoters wanting a piece of the pie & spreading titles.. The brothers didn't INVENT all these belts... GUESS who got the ball rolling on fracturing the belts.. the last one who did it & well i might add is none other than Lennox Lewis....he gave away all 3 UNDISPUTED belts he had because he first didn't want to fight John Ruiz who became a champion.. then Byrd WHO BECAME a champion & last but not least Vitali KLitschko... he had all 3 fighters fighting for his belts against somebody else instead of fighting & defending them himself... the brothers have done well to just get all 4 belts from ALL the paper champions who were holding them..



That's to be commended.. they have cleaned up all the junk & are now affording opponents the opportunity to get a belt or two by fighting a Klitschko.. instead of bettching about the brother;s stranglehold.. why doesn't someone just come & beat one of them or both...You have 2 unbeatable fighters instead of one.. that's the ONLY difference... one last name being undisputed just like it's always been. The last undisputed was Lewis.. now it's Klitschko & just because brothers are sharing it.. doesn't mean it's not legit..


EITHER brother would be undisputed & first 4 belt unified heavy right now if it wasn't for the other.. even the haters can admit that as ofcourse they don't think much of the competition now & for those who think the brothers are dominnating because of this era.. last i checked they were dominating some of the 90's when Lewis.Tyson.. Bowe & holyfield were in mid primes. It's like Kobe Bryant.. he played a little in Jordan;s era.. albeit it was towards the end but you get my point joe C.. ONLY SO much you can claim bad comp for someone's dominance before one calls BS on it.

[cupocity303]

Quick question. Is what I posted the truth? Has Vitali lost to his 2 best opponents, one byquitting and one by TKO because of eye damage?

Its easy to call me a hater. The more difficult, and honest, thing to do is evaluate Vitali's resume accurately. IMO Vitali would be even with ricky hatton, EXCEPT hatton beat Kosta Tszyu, a HOF.

You can't change the truth.

This is nonsense. Because if you're gonna use Ricky Hatton as an example, then you'd also have to consider that Ricky was never as dominant as Vitali, and that he got flat out TKO'd twice, and he never recovered from it. Whereas Vitali did.

All those losses were just a road block. No significant damage has come from those losses. A lot of fighters take credit for ending another fighters career or him never being the same again. Vitali lost and made up with dominant victories ever since.

[cupocity303]

Marciano fought when boxing was at it's PRIME and had hundreds more elite fighters! And you get cred BEATING other greats of your ERA! which he has not done, instead he has outlasted them when they have all become to old in a weakening div.

Quick question. How did he do against Shannon Briggs he beat him in 12 when Lewis did it in 5.

This is just anecdotal evidence.


However I will say that Vitali just based on the total number of wins, still has a lot of ground to cover, to distance himself from Lennox Lewis, seeing how he has only 43 victories to Lewis' 41 (both with only 2 losses). He will at least have to get to 50 wins with 2 losses to make up for the L's which he never avenged on paper, while Lennox did.