Would Vitali UNDISPUTED get more respect

[The Big Dunn]

EYE see your point.. eye really do.. but eye also realize that that is only 6.8% of his work.. eye don't think you understand that right now but eye think one day you will.

Lets be adults here.

At some point, you are only as good as your competition. Vitali's lost to his two best opponents. Thats just a fact. Its like Ricky Hatton, except Hatton beat Kosta. WHo is Viyali's Kosta, Sam Peter? Corrie Sanders?

Vitali is like a sophmore bully who beats up everyone except the junior and senior class bullies.

[DeadLikeMe]

It would be cool to have a unified heavyweight champion, but will any of us want to drink Vitali's semen like you? Doubtful.

[Dudley]

This has already been pointed out as a common hater's approach; just take the only two times when he wasn't as dominant as usually or got an unlucky injury and all of his other GREAT DOMINANT accomplishments don't matter at all. Guess what: All HW ATG besides perhaps Marciano had at least one L on their record (mostly more) and lost hundreds of rounds more than Vitali, not even as closely dominant as him and getting KTFO'd unlike him, but why am I even talking. Haters gonna hate.

Marciano fought when boxing was at it's PRIME and had hundreds more elite fighters! And you get cred BEATING other greats of your ERA! which he has not done, instead he has outlasted them when they have all become to old in a weakening div.

Quick question. How did he do against Shannon Briggs he beat him in 12 when Lewis did it in 5.

He will always be behind especially as the door begins to close on his career. Opinion from a boxing purists in regards to equating achievements in there historical significance.

[jimmy1569]

This has already been pointed out as a common hater's approach; just take the only two times when he wasn't as dominant as usually or got an unlucky injury and all of his other GREAT DOMINANT accomplishments don't matter at all. Guess what: All HW ATG besides perhaps Marciano had at least one L on their record (mostly more) and lost hundreds of rounds more than Vitali, not even as closely dominant as him and getting KTFO'd unlike him, but why am I even talking. Haters gonna hate.

Dude.. you're refreshing.. you talk straight to the point.. you state it as it is & you DON'T get emotional like i tend to do. If haters didn't have those 2 instances ONLY so long they could've held on to the lack of competition bit. The fact that they have thse 2 instances (6.8% of his work) while 93.2 % is absolutely the most dominant a fighter has ever been in winning 43 times.. that's 204 rds vs 15 rds (12 of which he won).. mind bogg;ling how you can hate on something so grate.

[jimmy1569]

man quit spamming these damn vitali threads just make a super mega "jimmy******" thread and post all your awesome vitali related posts there.

Until you come up with something even half enthralling i suggest you stfu & go on to another thread that's more on your level of intelligence as a boxing fan.

[tredh]

I say no only because he fighting in the weakest HW era to date. That is it and that is all. Can't say he stacks up to the ATG HWs because he accomplished al this in the weakest HW era to date. This is like a kid wanting to be on the dean's list cause he got straight A's but not wanting people to talk about him taking all special ed classes. Its just not the same.

[jimmy1569]

Lets be adults here.

At some point, you are only as good as your competition. Vitali's lost to his two best opponents. Thats just a fact. Its like Ricky Hatton, except Hatton beat Kosta. WHo is Viyali's Kosta, Sam Peter? Corrie Sanders?

Vitali is like a sophmore bully who beats up everyone except the junior and senior class bullies.

First off your boy Ricky getting KTFO by the 2 best fighters he's ever faced while losing every rd.. how is that similar to Vitali losing to the two best fighters he ever faced by injuries & cuts & he got those losses by default wile losing ONLY 3 RDS vs the fighters that supposedly beat him fair & square.. tell me if that is equaivalent & i'll show you the hottest girl in the world right next to one of the fugliest... & let's STOP the bs about him not getting credit for the Sanders W coming off on a win gainst one of the greatest heavies ever.. IN FACT this sANDERS is the ONLY fighter that has A legit victory OVER A kLITSCHKO... THE OTHER 4 fighters won a COMBINED 4 or 5 rds WHILE winning ONLY because the Klitschko's body or stamina failed.. Every FAMILY LOSS has been avenged except for Lewis as he was the ONLY won to escape with a KLITSCHKO w in hand & NOT grant a rematch to either bro.... kapish... moron!

[Superflo777]

Quick question. Is what I posted the truth? Has Vitali lost to his 2 best opponents, one byquitting and one by TKO because of eye damage?

No it ain't the truth. Based on what facts is Chris Byrd the second best opponent Vitali has ever faced? As long as you can't back up your claim, your argument "Vitali lost to the two best opponents he faced" is irrelevant.

He will always be behind especially as the door begins to close on his career.

Ever wondered why they closed? Ever came to think they might have closed because Vitali is one of the most dominant fighters in the history books, not allowing for young hungry contenders to build up a legacy & possible ATG status by losing more than 2 rounds against them, and actually making them look as good as they are? Or do you actually think the level of opposition in heavyweight magically dropped to zero after LL retired? Think about it before hating again.

[jimmy1569]

I say no only because he fighting in the weakest HW era to date. That is it and that is all. Can't say he stacks up to the ATG HWs because he accomplished al this in the weakest HW era to date. This is like a kid wanting to be on the dean's list cause he got straight A's but not wanting people to talk about him taking all special ed classes. Its just not the same.

Yeah keep on exaggerhating ON THE DIFFERENCE OF PAST GREATS' opposition as opposed to what he's faced.... All his opponents are so much better than what they're being credited for because of how Klitschko has destroyed them all... trust me.... this is closer to the truth than the erroneous bs you & all the haters spew because you HAVE nothing ELSE to point to when his dominance is presented on a factual plate.. maybe just maybe it's REALLY his dominance & NOT his opponent's weakness.. ever stop & think about that? It's tto much of a scary thought for all the haters to decipher because it would squash there belief of what dominance is REALLY about. Vitali KLITSCHKO destroys any one you think he hasn't faced & that's the one thing you REFUSE to believe because it takes away from what others of the past have done with MUCH less dominance. If ONLY ALL of you's can be placed in a lie detector machine.. you'd all be exposed for the excusemaking haters you really are.

[jimmy1569]

Marciano fought when boxing was at it's PRIME and had hundreds more elite fighters! And you get cred BEATING other greats of your ERA! which he has not done, instead he has outlasted them when they have all become to old in a weakening div.

Quick question. How did he do against Shannon Briggs he beat him in 12 when Lewis did it in 5.

He will always be behind especially as the door begins to close on his career. Opinion from a boxing purists in regards to equating achievements in there historical significance.

Quick question. How did he do against Shannon Briggs he beat him in 12 when Lewis did it in 5.

Quick answer. How did Lewis do against Levi Billups... Vitali beat him in 2.. Lewis had to win a Unanimous decision.

Those are there ONLY 2 common opponents.... Do YOU realize NOW how moronic it is to compare W's adgainst similar opposition... IF I WANTED to i could state Vitali had much more of a dominance discrepancy over Lewis when it comes to Billups as opposed to Lewis' supposed same dominance advantage over Briggs as opposed to how Vitali fared.. but i'm not the moron using this silly little alibi as an advantage like you & all the other haters.. So NEXT time you & everyone mention Briggs fight against them.. remember that there other similar comp went the other way...... kapish!