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  • GRUSTLER
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    #71
    Originally posted by puga
    yeah, compare jmm at 38 and casa at 37 and you'd find out jmm was still way better shape than casa was at that time.....if pac fights bradley, that would still be better than all of sergio's whole opponent with the exexption of of pwill....and pac has lots of good wins, sergio only has 2....comparing your god to pac is like comparing gold to ****...seriously!



    sure....cotto , clottey, shane are all inferior to guys like katsidis , juan diaz and casa...
    Cotto was worn out. Clottey has NEVER won any significant fight in his whole career aside from a Judah decision because Zab quit because of a phantom head butt and Shane? Come on man. Stop it please. Bob Arum, Freddie Roach and the rest of team Pac all ****ted on Shane before Pac fought him.

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    • Toyman
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      #72
      Originally posted by puga
      on paper yes but he really lost to santa cruz and almost got ktfo by katsidis..these was before jmm fought him.....juan diaz just got schooled by campbell..katsidis was never good...jmm's resume is weak...now,i was not going to down play it but since a jmm fan downplaying pac resume,it is plain ridiclous not to.....pac's ****'s on jmm 10 folds when it comes to who fought the better comp bar none...
      to add to that, not only did pac already beat jmm 3 times, but he did this to him in the 3rd fight








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      • puga
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        #73
        Originally posted by GRUSTLER
        And through all that. Manny Pacquiao STILL couldn't convincingly beat Juan Manuel Marquez EVENTHOUGH he moved up to fight Pac AND didn't do well against Floyd prior. ALSO the fighters in the whole sport of boxing says Marquez won. Not a good defense for Pac you are (Yoda's voice).
        even great fighters have that opponent that makes them look bad, jmm is to pacquaio who norton and frazier was to ali....even the biggest ducker in the game in floyd has jlc 1 and hoya....**** like that happens...

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        • puga
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          #74
          Originally posted by Toyman
          to add to that, not only did pac already beat jmm 3 times, but he did this to him in the 3rd fight








          yup...the sad truth is this..jmm really made his name out of giving pac the biggest problems in 3 fights but when you look at his resume, it aint really all that...jmm is an excellent fighter, but his resume is weak, pac made him....

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          • nathan31
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            #75
            cmon man im sick and tired of this fu.... martinez talking shiet and shiet over and over again first pacquiao, mayweather, cotto etc.... men stop the hating and the fu... bic.... about boxers just cause you beat paul wiliams by Ko dont mean shiet what have you done to say you deserve a good pay day BUMMMMM!!!

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            • GRUSTLER
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              #76
              Originally posted by iloveboxing2
              If Pacman is a fake then that makes Martinez a major fraud. Seriously, who did this guy beat, lanky PWill and out of sync Pavlik? Stop b1tching and move up to where you belong, Jr will never give this douche bag a shot, Martinez just doesn't have the fan base. If Jr decides to fight Martinez and that's a big if, he'll get humiliated and a 20% purse for the beating he'll get from Jr.. Martinez is a major BULLY!
              Paul Williams even though a lil shaky now was highly regarded during the time Sergio Martinez fought him 2x's and Kelly Pavlik was the champion of the middle weight division and coming off of a win. Sergio moved up without a catchweight and beat Pavlik. The only guy who was coming off of a win at WW who Pac fought was Miguel Cotto and he didn't look that great in his fight with Clottey AND needed a catch weight for an already damaged Cotto. Can't go around discrediting other fighters opposition when Manny hasn't been fighting the best AT ALL with exception to Juan Manuel Marquez and he didn't even deliver in that fight and Marquez was moving up to where Pac was dominating bigger guys. Not a good look.

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              • puga
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                #77
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                Cotto was worn out. Clottey has NEVER won any significant fight in his whole career aside from a Judah decision because Zab quit because of a phantom head butt and Shane? Come on man. Stop it please. Bob Arum, Freddie Roach and the rest of team Pac all ****ted on Shane before Pac fought him.
                worn out, becuae he lost to margo?...lol...floyd ducked cotto for a reason..." he lives in puerto rico " remember?...lol....remeber how floyd retired when the hottest fighters were cotto and margs at ww?...lol...clottey was top 4 ww when pac fought him and pac only fought him since floyd's coward ass was being difficult ...

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                • RA-Box
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                  #78
                  I'm surprised with you people. What do you expect him to say when he's questioned on these things? He doesn't run to reporters to talk about pac. They ASK HIM WHAT HE THINKS and he just answers honestly.

                  There isn't even a word in there that talks about him fighting pac. He's just giving his opinion on what he thinks of the currently considered p4p #1, a spot that he's after himself.

                  And everything he said about Cotto, Dzinziruk, Pac, Top Rank and Chavez is 100% true.

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                  • GRUSTLER
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by puga
                    even great fighters have that opponent that makes them look bad, jmm is to pacquaio who norton and frazier was to ali....even the biggest ducker in the game in floyd has jlc 1 and hoya....**** like that happens...
                    I never said it didn't but you tried to discredit all of the guys JMM fought at Lightweight and on JMM but Manny Pacquiao still couldn't beat him convincingly after 7 YEARS in the weight class where Pac has been dominate since 08/09? Come on fam. Lets keep it real. The funny thing is that. The fights between Pac and JMM became more difficult for Pac as they got older and moved up in weight? JMM has Pac by like 4 years and in the last fight it was clear to almost if not everyone except guys like you that Juan Manuel Marquez beat Manny Pacquiao. Even Pac had to reach out to his people for support AFTER he won. A lil questionable to me homie.

                    Manny Pacquiao to critics: Be true, be Filipino

                    “Doon sa mga i**** tao na naniniwala na di tama yung desisyon eh, magpakatotoo ka…maging Filipino ka (To those who believe that the decision was wrong, be true to yourself, be a Filipino),” he added.

                    http://sports.inquirer.net/26305/man...ue-be-filipino
                    The gayest thing any professional elite fighter could say after a fight he won.
                    Last edited by GRUSTLER; 12-18-2011, 11:27 PM.

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                    • GodInFleshSuit
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                      #80
                      [QUOTE=Toyman;11578408]to add to that, not only did pac already beat jmm 3 times, but he did this to him in the 3rd fight

                      You act like Pac really beat JMM! Marquez probably should have got the W in all three of those fights. This has been said by boxer's and boxing analyst all over. That's a whole different debate though. As for those pics from Pac/Marq 3, those mean nothing. I've seen fights where the winner is busted up to hell and the loser barely has a bruise. Some people show more damage than others. That arguement is weak. I could knock you out in a fight but if you happen to catch me once and give me a black eye.....does that mean you won???

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