How much of Andre Ward's dirty & illegal tactics will Steve Smoger allow?

[The Hammer]

So Freedom doesn't like Andre Ward because he's black? I always thought that it was because he can't stand to see a successful American fighter.

But this sheds new light on things.

So ShoulderRoll doesn't like Carl Froch because he's white? I always thought that it was because he can't stand to see a successful European fighter.

But this sheds new light on things.

[Chuckguy]

So ShoulderRoll doesn't like Carl Froch because he's white? I always thought that it was because he can't stand to see a successful European fighter.

But this sheds new light on things.

I like both fighters. Ward is clearly far more skilled than Froch. However Carl has heart. I really have never seen these deliberate illegal tactics you are accusing him of. It just all the euro crybabies that can't accept they got outclassed by an American. All you crying about ward and his illegal tactics never seem to complain about Hattons WWE style. What happened to him when he fought top tier boxers... Oh that's right he got his ass handed to him. Need I go on? American or not may the best man win.

[deuce_drop]

In the Super Six final, will Steve Smoger allow Andre Ward to do his usual dirty stuff like deliberate headbutting, hitting off the break, and hitting while holding?

Or will he draw the line and be fair?

that is a good question, smoger being one of the best in the business, with recent activities in the refereeing end of things, with the ref form the khan fight, actually doing his job, is now putting pressure on other refs to follow suit.

only thing is, smoger lets fight action happen, and he also calls guys out on their stuff, it can't really be said that he's been too lenient because he doesn't or hasn't taken that many points away in big show fights, they have been few and far between, but with the new found scrutiny on refs, which I think should be first and foremost, we could see refs call more things they should've been calling for a long time, or nothing and it's a judgement call to a certain degree.

smoger has a way of directing fights with VERY little involvement, he knows how to control fighters without being all up in the fight action, so it's going to be very interesting how this plays out.

[ghost deini]

hopefully the cobra will be able to pull it out i doubt it though

[Weebler I]

imo refs should stay out if it and not get to involved Smoger is good pick let the fight be decided in the ring

And if the head is being thrown in? this is precisely why Kessler had so many complaints, the ref ignored all the illegal and dirty tactics and Mikkel ended up two holes pouring blood from above both eyes - from headbutts.

I'm all for letting the guys fight, but there is a line and Ward crossed it that night. I don't want to see the Super 6 final decided by who can throw the best headbutt.

[Afactor4]

I think he allows all of Wards dirty tactics, although the term "allow" is a bit out of context.

We may see a fair bit of Froch complaining to the Smoger about Wards tactics, and may sway him to do a bit more work this time around.

Regardless, I think it's quite obvious that the choice of referee clearly benefits Ward, although in hindsight we could all be wrong.

[The Hammer]

I think he allows all of Wards dirty tactics, although the term "allow" is a bit out of context.

We may see a fair bit of Froch complaining to the Smoger about Wards tactics, and may sway him to do a bit more work this time around.

Regardless, I think it's quite obvious that the choice of referee clearly benefits Ward, although in hindsight we could all be wrong.

Although Steve Smoger allows a lot of stuff, he's fair and honest.

I think Froch knows what to expect tonight, and when Ward gets dirty, he'll reply with the same. Ward won't be able to deal with it without a home referee to protect him, like he had against Bika.

[Kagami Taiga]

lol, its gonna be a great fight, guys. lol.

[lfc19titles]

that is a good question, smoger being one of the best in the business, with recent activities in the refereeing end of things, with the ref form the khan fight, actually doing his job, is now putting pressure on other refs to follow suit.

only thing is, smoger lets fight action happen, and he also calls guys out on their stuff, it can't really be said that he's been too lenient because he doesn't or hasn't taken that many points away in big show fights, they have been few and far between, but with the new found scrutiny on refs, which I think should be first and foremost, we could see refs call more things they should've been calling for a long time, or nothing and it's a judgement call to a certain degree.

smoger has a way of directing fights with VERY little involvement, he knows how to control fighters without being all up in the fight action, so it's going to be very interesting how this plays out.

LoL how deluded are you yanks

not giving knockdowns, letting the american headbutt, elbow and low blow while stopping the other guy from pushing to protect himself is not called doing his job

well it might be in yanky doodle land

[Mikhnienko]

http://www.boxingscene.com/kessler-ward-issues-over-appointment-local-officials--23554

The Showtime contract, which was signed by all five promoters involved in the Super Six tournament, states: “Judges and referees shall be identified, selected and assigned by the athletic commission with jurisdiction over the Bout; provided that in all events, one judge shall be from the Home Territory of each Boxer Participant and the third judge shall be from a neutral territory, and in all cases, the referee shall be from a neutral territory.”

Ward allowed to cheat the rules yet again.