How much of Andre Ward's dirty & illegal tactics will Steve Smoger allow?

[Elotero]

In the Super Six final, will Steve Smoger allow Andre Ward to do his usual dirty stuff like deliberate headbutting, hitting off the break, and hitting while holding?

Or will he draw the line and be fair?

All of it. No warnings until Froch is bleeding profusely and gets KO'd by a solid headbutt.

Hell, I think he will allow a headbutt caused by a punch!

[The Hammer]

All of it. No warnings until Froch is bleeding profusely and gets KO'd by a solid headbutt.

Hell, I think he will allow a headbutt caused by a punch!

Prediction: Ward KO by deliberate headbutt, same as in his fight with Kessler.

Ward is feather-fisted, that's why he needs to use his head to KO his opponents.

[johnm is...]

Although I think Smoger is a great ref, his style of refereeing could benefit Ward. Who knows though? I think you need to stop biitching about refereeing before fights, Tunney. You just set yourself up for a fall.

Tunney likes to make sure he has all of his excuses out of the way beforehand. Because, you know, a black man should never win any fight, ever.

[Ray*]

I dont want the ref to be the centre stage, Dont even want to know who the ref is, Just let the fighters do what they do best which is box, If anything illegal happens then get in there and stop it and do it to both boxers not to one boxer while the other gets a way with his own illegal stuff.

[Mike Haynes]

I dont want the ref to be the centre stage, Dont even want to know who the ref is, Just let the fighters do what they do best which is box, If anything illegal happens then get in there and stop it and do it to both boxers not to one boxer while the other gets a way with his own illegal stuff.

Damn, we can end this thread now.

[The Hammer]

Tunney likes to make sure he has all of his excuses out of the way beforehand. Because, you know, a black man should never win any fight, ever.

This thread has nothing to do with race.

I just want Froch to receive fair officiating. I know you don't mind it if Ward wins by using illegal tactics.

[Tmann400]

Tunney, look I've always gotten along with you in the past, you can be a really solid poster, but c'mon man you haven't given Ward ANY credit since his Kessler win over TWO years ago. These excuses and BS, are just that BS and excuses. I mean how long can you say this s.hit, when someone keeps winning and keeps winning against top fighters fighting a different style each fight. The ref in the Abraham fight allowed absolutely no inside fighting and Ward still dominated the fight boxing on the outside, so how did he win that fight?. With his magic wizard illegal tactics?. OH that's right it's a conspiracy.

Give credit where credit is due man, c'mon. Ward has a style where he lunges in with power shots sometimes, due to the fact he has a very short reach for his weightclass, which results in accidental headbutts. I mean how was Ward cheating when he had Kessler looking foolish, outboxing him on the inside and outside? what about Abraham? Green? And if you're gonna bring up the Bika fight, Bika is the most reckless awkward fighter you'll ever see, so it made an ugly fight with Ward. Anyway...Tell me this much, if Ward wins this weekend....Are you going to make excuses yes or no? If it's a clean fight, and Ward wins the fight cleanly? Also, will you call out Froch for dirty tactics if he starts pulling them out of frustration? Case closed.

[Tobi.G]

It cant be denied that Ward is a dirty fighter. In his last fights he was not that dirty though, i think hes getting cleaner because he has to if he wants to be a major player and get more fans. I mean he was disgusting in the Kessler fight but he became cleaner in the fights after that. So hes on a good way.

[snoopymiller]

Ward clinches like Berto. Not inside fighting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R92UP2ql3oI&feature=related

[The Hammer]

Ward was regularly deliberately headbutting Green, while hitting while holding for much of the fight. He was very dirty in that fight.

Both he and Bika were dirty, but the ref got on Bika's back for it, and said nothing to Ward. Ward blatently hit Bika off the break, the referee was right there but said nothing.

Ward didn't need to do as much dirty stuff to beat the shorter, reach-challenged Abraham, but I remember when he became frustrated that his feathery punches weren't hurting Abraham in a late round, and charged into Abraham's face with his head like a ram.