Comments Thread For: Upon Further Review: Rotten D.C. Verdict Still Stinks

[Hougigo]

Not to mention "though Cooper’s every bit as indictable for not simply applying in-fight context to supplement the skull-first, bore-in style that Peterson was given a pass on employing for 36 minutes."

What the hell was this writer watching? Peterson by no means fought a dirty fight. How many clashes of heads were there? I can't even remember one. As far as I'm concerned the ref did a stand up job. People are just butt hurt because he took a point in the last round. In my opinion he should have took the 2nd point a hell of a lot sooner. Khan had plenty of warnings.

The writer didn't mention Khan pushing off with the elbows, the constant leaning down on Peterson's neck and let us not forget those headlocks. All these kind of tactics spoil fights, I wish more refs would deduct points for such antics.

Khan must've thought it was a UFC match with all those choke locks

The 2nd point deduction was for hitting on the break. That was ****** of Khan.

When Larry asked Lamont about the point deductions Lamont said he didn't mind the pushing. It was the constant down-holding of his head by Khan that bothered him.

So, he often pushed, held Lamont's head down and hit once on the break.

Khan asked for it.

Nah, it was for pushing... but he did hit after the break

[norrin]

Fitz is starting to sound like Marley.

[BennyST]

The ignorance that has been seeping from some of these supposed boxing 'writers', 'experts' and 'judges' is utterly mind numbing. I guess that's what happens when star power strikes those that get wowed by such silliness.

If only they watched the fight with normal, unbiased eyes. Listening would also be good and help.

The thread that was put out recently with Lederman is even worse than this tripe. Lederman complaining that the ref should have warned Khan properly and said that it was going to be the last time before taking a point away.

Was he sleeping during the 6th round when the ref did exactly that in no uncertain terms? "The is your last time Khan. Last time!" Did he really miss that obvious piece of advice from the ref to Khan? Are people, and writers, that thick and slow? Have they been caught up in hype and idiocy that much that they don't recognise basic boxing rules and what constitutes breaking those rules and fighting within them?

The part about Peterson fouling with his style is so sadly ignorant I can only shake my head and sigh that this guy writes as some kind of supposed expert on boxing. Yo Lyle, learn the rules mate, then try to understand them. Boring in is not against any boxing rule and never has been, ever.

There were no headbutts and there is no rule against putting your head into a fighters chest. It's a tactic, not breaking a rule. What Khan did was specifically against regulation boxing rules.

'You cannot hit below the belt, hold, trip, kick, headbutt, wrestle, bite, spit on, or push your opponent.'

Let me say that again, in case you missed it the first time (it seems you did by not knowing the rules in the first place so I figured you probably missed them this time in your 'boxing journalist' ignorance): Fighting on the inside is not against the rules. Fighting with your head, especially if you're shorter (doesn't matter either way though), in the opponents chest is not against the rules. Having your head below your waist is against the rules. Peterson didn't do that, so anything about head too low is pointless. He didn't hit Khan with headbutts, again making any assumption of it moot. It didn't happen. Khan didn't get head butted during the fight and there was definitely no launching in of his head.

You can not break a rule just for thinking the other guy might. You can't hold someone behind the head and push down because you think he might headbutt you. That's you breaking the rules, not him. That means you can't do it. Wow! We've finally learned something class. The difference between thinking someone might break the rules (but not breaking them), and actually breaking the rules.

Also, Khan pushed, not for thinking Peterson might headbutt him, but because that's how he stops Peterson, and all his other opponents, from working inside. You cannot do it. That's why it's against the rules. It's also why you can't pick a boxer that's running away from you up and carry them bodily over to the corner and then maul them, then grab onto them when they try to run away again and pull them back into the corner by their arm. You have to fight your fight inside the rules and try to stop the opponent from fighting his, again without breaking the rules. That means you cannot stop someone from fighting and punching with holding, pushing off or pulling their head down.

Boring in and putting heavy pressure on someone is called fighting inside the rules. If he had been boring and actually launching headbutts ala Bradley, Casamayor, Khan, Hopkins etc, then he would have broken the rules. He didn't.

This is the important part Lyle. Khan actually broke the rules over and over and over and over, despite repeated warnings, despite the last warning before having a point taken, and even despite having a point taken he continued with no regard for those rules to break them. Peterson didn't. Does that make any sense to you? Just because you don't like the style of Peterson doesn't mean you can just come along and write complete BS saying that he was breaking rules and Khan wasn't. That is the worst possible journalism ie. uneducated, ignorant BS.

It's a really simple concept and one I thought someone like you would finally be familiar with after living this long. Clearly not. Please review rules before ever writing anything that mentions them ignorantly again.

Both guys has the usual small infractions, and were warned for them, that happen in every fight. Only one guy fouled excessively, against the rules, and continued to do so from the first bell to the last in complete disregard to the refs warnings and point deductions.

If this had happened to any other fighter, people would be saying nothing at all. Because it happens to some HBO, GBP protected hyped fighter suddenly breaking normal, regulation rules is perfectly fine? I've been stunned into incomprehension with the amount of crap that has come out of this fight because a fighter that was actually breaking the rules was properly deducted points for it.

Whatever happened to this type of reaction to Cortez deducting a point, with no warning at all, to Maidana for elbowing once? Instead, in this fight you have a ref warning non stop for 6 round before deducting a point and you still have people *****ing? Then, even after that it takes until the very end of the fight before he deducts another despite continuous warnings each round for the same rule being broken.

[bojangles1987]

I couldn't disagree more with this article. Peterson deserved to win, Khan never once looked brilliant, and I don't have any problem with the ref's performance.

[slindee3]

LOL, I know right. When are fools gonna stop crying and blame Khan for excessive pushing. British announcers did it, seems the rest of the world needs to play catch up. I had Khan winning 113-112, but i'm not mad with the decision. Live and learn Khan.

I concur with everything you said.

[feeteyeshands]

Nobody I talk to wants to acknowledge the fact the second knock down wasnt a knock down. Khan tripped Peterson. Khan spent most of the time holding and running. This writer watched a totally different fight!!!!

[Hougigo]

Nobody I talk to wants to acknowledge the fact the second knock down wasnt a knock down. Khan tripped Peterson. Khan spent most of the time holding and running. This writer watched a totally different fight!!!!

Wasn't a trip... well maybe... more of a elbow push to me.
If they can't see that then there's no point in bothering.

[John Barron]

The ignorance that has been seeping from some of these supposed boxing 'writers', 'experts' and 'judges' is utterly mind numbing. I guess that's what happens when star power strikes those that get wowed by such silliness.

If only they watched the fight with normal, unbiased eyes. Listening would also be good and help.

The thread that was put out recently with Lederman is even worse than this tripe. Lederman complaining that the ref should have warned Khan properly and said that it was going to be the last time before taking a point away.

Was he sleeping during the 6th round when the ref did exactly that in no uncertain terms? "The is your last time Khan. Last time!" Did he really miss that obvious piece of advice from the ref to Khan? Are people, and writers, that thick and slow? Have they been caught up in hype and idiocy that much that they don't recognise basic boxing rules and what constitutes breaking those rules and fighting within them?

The part about Peterson fouling with his style is so sadly ignorant I can only shake my head and sigh that this guy writes as some kind of supposed expert on boxing. Yo Lyle, learn the rules mate, then try to understand them. Boring in is not against any boxing rule and never has been, ever.

There were no headbutts and there is no rule against putting your head into a fighters chest. It's a tactic, not breaking a rule. What Khan did was specifically against regulation boxing rules.

'You cannot hit below the belt, hold, trip, kick, headbutt, wrestle, bite, spit on, or push your opponent.'

Let me say that again, in case you missed it the first time (it seems you did by not knowing the rules in the first place so I figured you probably missed them this time in your 'boxing journalist' ignorance): Fighting on the inside is not against the rules. Fighting with your head, especially if you're shorter (doesn't matter either way though), in the opponents chest is not against the rules. Having your head below your waist is against the rules. Peterson didn't do that, so anything about head too low is pointless. He didn't hit Khan with headbutts, again making any assumption of it moot. It didn't happen. Khan didn't get head butted during the fight and there was definitely no launching in of his head.

You can not break a rule just for thinking the other guy might. You can't hold someone behind the head and push down because you think he might headbutt you. That's you breaking the rules, not him. That means you can't do it. Wow! We've finally learned something class. The difference between thinking someone might break the rules (but not breaking them), and actually breaking the rules.

Also, Khan pushed, not for thinking Peterson might headbutt him, but because that's how he stops Peterson, and all his other opponents, from working inside. You cannot do it. That's why it's against the rules. It's also why you can't pick a boxer that's running away from you up and carry them bodily over to the corner and then maul them, then grab onto them when they try to run away again and pull them back into the corner by their arm. You have to fight your fight inside the rules and try to stop the opponent from fighting his, again without breaking the rules. That means you cannot stop someone from fighting and punching with holding, pushing off or pulling their head down.

Boring in and putting heavy pressure on someone is called fighting inside the rules. If he had been boring and actually launching headbutts ala Bradley, Casamayor, Khan, Hopkins etc, then he would have broken the rules. He didn't.

This is the important part Lyle. Khan actually broke the rules over and over and over and over, despite repeated warnings, despite the last warning before having a point taken, and even despite having a point taken he continued with no regard for those rules to break them. Peterson didn't. Does that make any sense to you? Just because you don't like the style of Peterson doesn't mean you can just come along and write complete BS saying that he was breaking rules and Khan wasn't. That is the worst possible journalism ie. uneducated, ignorant BS.

It's a really simple concept and one I thought someone like you would finally be familiar with after living this long. Clearly not. Please review rules before ever writing anything that mentions them ignorantly again.

Both guys has the usual small infractions, and were warned for them, that happen in every fight. Only one guy fouled excessively, against the rules, and continued to do so from the first bell to the last in complete disregard to the refs warnings and point deductions.

If this had happened to any other fighter, people would be saying nothing at all. Because it happens to some HBO, GBP protected hyped fighter suddenly breaking normal, regulation rules is perfectly fine? I've been stunned into incomprehension with the amount of crap that has come out of this fight because a fighter that was actually breaking the rules was properly deducted points for it.

Whatever happened to this type of reaction to Cortez deducting a point, with no warning at all, to Maidana for elbowing once? Instead, in this fight you have a ref warning non stop for 6 round before deducting a point and you still have people *****ing? Then, even after that it takes until the very end of the fight before he deducts another despite continuous warnings each round for the same rule being broken.

ether'd this article.

[LAPete]

Im thinking Fitz lost lots of money on a bet he placed on Kahn winning.....sure he's pissed and is going to whine and drone on about unfairness.
Kahn lost and so did he. Tough luck Fitz! The "L" isn't going to disappear and turn into a "W" just because you lost a bet.

[wailer]

Nobody I talk to wants to acknowledge the fact the second knock down wasnt a knock down. Khan tripped Peterson. Khan spent most of the time holding and running. This writer watched a totally different fight!!!!

Thank you kind sir. I was at the fight live and personally thought khan was fighting Maidana part 2, the way he back pedaled all night and try to steal rounds with flurry's but anyway you are the first person I've read mention about that the second knockdown, it was just as much a gift from the ref as the 2 points they claim he deducted after repeatedly warning Con, cause replay shows it wasn't a knockdown, but it doesn't help these writer's agenda to mention that huh.