Who Thinks Khan Stylistically Still Owns Mayweather?

[THE REED]

and also conversely who thinks Peterson beats Floyd? Kind of similar to Castillo's pressure and body work that gave floyd so much trouble long ago

Big difference.

Floyd is a great inside fighter.

[01samuelc]

and also conversely who thinks Peterson beats Floyd? Kind of similar to Castillo's pressure and body work that gave floyd so much trouble long ago

floyd really worked on his inside game apparently after that fight. He's a much better inside fighter now than before.

[etlux]

Big difference.

Floyd is a great inside fighter.

yes but he hasn't faced such a strong pressure fighter in recent times.

although those looping shots that peterson was catching on khan behind the gloves on his ear etc when he had khan trapped on the ropes, i see floyd easily shoulder rolling those and then the speed disparity would be too big. plus despite being roughly same size not sure if peterson is really 147 material

[Kimo]

hey dumby my theory was the complete opposite of triangle theory. i.e. i was DISPROVING triangle theory.

conventional triangle theory would say: if khan lost to peterson that means he obviously loses to floyd because floyd in theory would destroy peterson easily. My theory goes completely AGAINST that and thus AGAINST trianlge theory in that even though khan lost to peterson and floyd would destroy peterson, I feel Khan has a chance to beat floyd

Don't get your panties all up in a twist, I was actually supporting your theory and referring to others which draw silly conclusions. Chillax!

[etlux]

Don't get your panties all up in a twist, I was actually supporting your theory and referring to others which draw silly conclusions. Chillax!

sorry i apologize then.

[Drunk Punch]

Not buying it. Floyd's on a different level and better in just about every department. The only thing Khan has is speed (which Floyd also has) and which he will negate with his far superior accuracy and timing.

[THE REED]

yes but he hasn't faced such a strong pressure fighter in recent times.

although those looping shots that peterson was catching on khan behind the gloves on his ear etc when he had khan trapped on the ropes, i see floyd easily shoulder rolling those and then the speed disparity would be too big. plus despite being roughly same size not sure if peterson is really 147 material

While I admire Petersons determination against Khan, he was very sloppy at times... Sloppiness that Khan didnt make him pay for, that Mayweather would.

You're not going to come in with your head down against Floyd and not pay for it.

Also, Floyd wouldnt be running backwards out the ring, he would stalk forwards behind a quick accurate jab, the fight would be completely different.

[The Gambler1981]

That was never a good thought to begin with, Khan has to fight a certain way to be effective and really his best area is not good enough to whitewash Floyd to give him a shot and Floyd has other areas where he holds big advantages.

Just don't see how anyone would think Khan beats Floyd, Khan is an alright fighter but a stock Mustang won't mess with a high end Ferrari.

[GrizzleBoy]

Stylistically beating floyd?

1. Floyd WONT chase Khan (till it suits him).

2. Khan isn't accurate/powerful enough with his flash flurries to scare Floyd.

3. Floyd is a HARD and ACCURATE puncher. People seem to be under the illusion that just because he is so defensive that his power is sacrificed. He is usually the puncher in his fights.

4. Khan is still far too wild and wide. Those kinds of mistakes aren't getting past Mayweather so easy. Not for twelve rounds.


If Mayweather has an answer for Khans outside game (which is basic stick and move), Khan is getting ****d on the inside and everywhere else.

Therefore, it all depends on how good Khan can do on the outside away from flurries that Floyd will almost definately make sure do not score with the judges.

[4Corners]

and also conversely who thinks Peterson beats Floyd? Kind of similar to Castillo's pressure and body work that gave floyd so much trouble long ago

Only Castillo was able to keep Floyd on the ropes because he was much bigger than Floyd, out weighed him by over 10 lbs on fight night. Floyd has struggled a lot with guys that can drive him to the ropes, and force him to stay there (Castillo 1 and 2, De La Hoya the first 4-5 rounds, Ortiz in rounds 2 and the last minute of round 4).

Castillo wasn't a huge puncher, but Lamont has very little punch at all. I don't see FLoyd being trouble by Lamont's power at all, and Lamont usually doesn't pressure like he did Khan in most fights. Floyd walks Peterson down easy, wins a wide UD.

If Khan beats Peterson in the rematch and than beat the Berto-Ortiz II winner in the summer, I'd love to see him fight Floyd. He has to redeem himself first though and it starts with a Peterson rematch, and he has to do something at 147 first, otherwise it'll be consdiered a cherry pick for Floyd. Even Hatton, who was #4 P4P, unbeaten, when Floyd fought him, he'd been at 147 before briefly.

Khan's whole game is throw flurries and move, throw flurries and move, that's it. It worked well against Zab Judah, who was past his prime and unable to return fire, and it works well with fighters coming forward...until Khan gets caught on the ropes (Maidana and Peterson, when Lamont switched his style up in round 3). I see Khan having major problems with Berto and Ortiz at 147, who are much bigger than he is, and are a little quicker than Lamont. Sure, Ortiz and Berto aren't as fast as Khan, but they throw punches with relatively decent speed, and pack some major power. I see Khan beating Alexander easily, struggling but pulling out a points win over Berto, and a fight with Ortiz is 50/50. It really will be great to see Ortiz, Khan, Berto, Alexander, Maidana, Bradley, all fight at 147 the next few years, some great fights in there.

I just can't see Khan out-boxing Floyd. Floyd is most vulnerbale to someone who's physcially bigger than him, who can keep him on the ropes, that's not Khan. What is Khan going to do when Floyd hit's him with counter rights, soemthing that even Peterson was able to land often on Khan??? I think Khan may be a tad bit quicker than Floyd at 35, but Floyd is still fast as hell with his hands, and can get out of dodge pretty often still. When Amir fights backing up, he's lost. He back peddles and back peddles, than plants his feet and throws a flurry. If Floyd can walk Ortiz down the way he was, I see nor eason that he can't walk Khan down, and the back peddling and planting your feet thing, than throwing a flurry....won't work with Floyd, who will pop you with straight rights the whole time you're backing away, unable to get anything off.

And Floyd won't run forward with ****** agression, like Maidana and Peterson did when they fought Khan. Granted, the pressure of Maidana and Peterson ended up working well, but Floyd is not that kind of fighter. He won't come forward and walk Khan down until it suits him, when he knows he can touch you up from his distance and keep you back peddling. Floyd didn't really try to walk Victor Ortiz down at all the first round, felt him out, touched him up with a few straight rights. The 2nd round, Floyd started to walk him down a bit, landing straight rights, but Victor was able to get FLoyd on the ropes for a bit, had some success that round. The 3rd, Floyd avoided the ropes, out-classed Ortiz, and walked him down. Had Ortiz back peddling and continued to hit him with straight right hands. The 4th, the first 2:00 were the same as the 3rd, but the last 0:15, Ortiz got him on the ropes, had some success. I don't see Khan trying to come forward against Floyd and trying to keep him on the ropes, again....it's not his style, at all.

Floyd has shown most all of his vulnerability when he's trapped on the ropes....is that what Amir Khan is going to do against Floyd???? Pressure and pressure, to trap him on the ropes.....No, that's not Khan's game. His game is throw flurries and move, throw flurries and move, back peddle and back peddle, plant my feet, and throw another flurry and move again....that's not going to work if Floyd is countering and not coming forward with non-effective agression.