Comments Thread For: Klitschko vs Chisora on February 18, Then Haye in June

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  • Joeyzagz
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    #21
    Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
    I'm not happy Vitali is fighting a guy that Fury tore up but to be fair, he did beat Helenius bad and got jobbed, missed out on two good paydays with Wlad and wasn't in too good of shape when he faced Tyson Fury. He could make the fight entertaining for a few rds of he comes in, in good shape like w/ Helenius.
    Helinius had a broken hand.

    Cant believe 15-2 gets you a title shot in 2012. Its truly the end of the world.

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    • Mr. Invincible
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      #22
      Originally posted by Joeyzagz
      Helinius had a broken hand.

      Cant believe 15-2 gets you a title shot in 2012. Its truly the end of the world.
      Well Fury wouldn't man up so.........

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      • The Ban Stick
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        #23
        Zags, You're a notorious Klitschko hater. That is all.

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        • Lucky Jim
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          #24
          Nice fight stylistically. Chisora has a style that will make Vitali have to work for the victory.

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          • TaurusJ27
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            #25
            Hopefully Chisora does better than Adamek.

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            • 4Corners
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              #26
              Chisora, Povetkin, Fury, Mitchell, and I guess.....Haye....Really the only pretty good HW right now with somewhat of a shot at beating the Klitschko's. It's sad to see how far the HW division has fallen since just Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Rid**** Bowe, Michael Moorer, were all fighting and top contenders.

              I like the Klitschko's, ATG HW's, but neither cracks the top 20 HW of all time for me, based on resumes of each era. It's not their fault though. The only top contending HW besides the Klitschko's of the past 3-4 years that would have made some real noise in the 90's was David Haye, and he was bounced by Wlad with ease. I just can't see why David Haye didn't throw more or take more chances. Yeah, Wlad could have KO'd him had Haye been caught, but there's also a chance that Haye could catch Wlad, or at least make scoring the rounds interesting.

              I find it intresting that Klitschko fans always say theyw ould dominate any HW era with ease, and here's my sole reason behind that......Vitali, in his prime, didn't dominate a past prime 37 year old Lennox Lewis AT ALL. Sure, Vitali was up 4 rounds to 2 at the time of stoppage, but that was Vitali in his prime against a past prime Lennox, who was no where near the guy he was 4-5 years earlier, let alone when he was in his 20's on the top of his game. I think Vitali and Wlad would be good in any era, not dominating. They are big HW, but they wouldn't have a huge size advantage over a prime Lewis or Bowe, who wre also much better boxers than anyone Vitali or Wald have fought.

              They are both ATG HW's, but no one knows how they would done in other era's.

              I think the era's prior to Sonny Liston and Ali in the 60's, if you put the Klitschko's in their with those HW (Johnson, Dempsey, Baer, Schmeling, Louis, Charles, Walcott, Marciano), theyw ould probably beat all of them, based on size alone, but that doesn't make them greater. Joe Louis is the 2nd greatest HW of all-time to me, based on what he did in his career for his era, but no way would he beat a lot of the other top contenders from the 60's-present day.

              I would pick either Klitschko to beat Floyd Patterson, Sonny Liston, Ken Norton, Ernie Terrell, Joe Frazier, Michael Moorer, and would give them a 50/50 shot with Tyson. But, I find it hard to imagine either of them beating prime versions of Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Evander Hlyfield, Rid**** Bowe, and Lennox Lewis.

              Just my thoughts though.

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              • Goodfella12
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                #27
                Originally posted by Gooch999
                Chisoras just came off 2 losses surely there is someone else out ther lol
                Originally posted by JimmyMcNulty
                So Klit is fighting a guy coming off a 2 run losing streak?

                Lame. Even if Chisora did 'beat' Helenius, the record books say otherwise.
                Helenius was outclassed and dominated by Chisora.

                That version of Chisora demolishes Fury.

                He deserves the title shot.

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                • sfalcus
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                  #28
                  Haye should take the WBA strap from the shady Russian then unify vs vitali, when he'll lose

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                  • Nautilus
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                    #29
                    Good fight. Chisora deserved it by beating Helenius.

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #30
                      Vitaly is going to cherry pick from the inexperienced to the inactive. Only in the heavyweight division does an inexperienced guy "deserve something big" for beating another inexperienced guy.

                      Lets set a fight up between Bongani Mwelase 14-2(12) and Ronald cruz 15-0(12)......(yeah, I know...look them up on boxrec, thats what I did).........and the winner can get Floyd or Pac. Their fans can justify it by saying if it's ok for the heavyweights it should be ok for us.

                      More proof the heavyweight division blows.

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