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  • Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
    LOL !!!!

    What is that bold type of my quote about pulling for Pac got to do with the price of tea in China , LOL !!!

    FORGET ARUM,,,, I have done all I can do to forget Arum, I don't care for Arum or KING ,,, I have put up with their S### for 40 years, especially KING when he spoke down on DUNDEE , Ali told King to get back.

    IF you *****s think every Pac fan loves Arum you are wrong. Talk is Arum said if Mayweather is in court he won't fight, so then you have :

    Bradley
    Cotto
    JMM 4

    and it made me SICK !! All Arum fighters,,,,sickening

    I saw a video a few years ago where Margo walked up to JR and JR nearly SHI# his pants. Shook hands like a woman. Back away like please , NO NO !!!

    That made me sick. What was that about. JR DUCKED MARGO and its chronicled.

    Merchant put it on Jrs ASS when doing the interview and Did the Major DUCK with Cotto ON NATIONAL TV MANG ,,,AAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!
    Ok, Ok.... I get it. You love Manny Pacquiao and hate Floyd Mayweather. Come back to me when you want to talk about boxing and facts because I don't talk to or debate with people who posts like this........


    Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
    yes I am bias, I pull for Pac.
    You will never see or view anything from a non bias perspective. Leave me be fan boy.

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    • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
      How am I putting a spin on what actually happened? You asked me to answer your question and i did with facts and the word straight from Bob Arum's mouth himself regarding Margarito and Cotto. Why am I even debating with a guy who has already admitted this.......
      Aye the way, you can debate me but you will be wrong,,,you are as bias as I am.

      I love the Rivalry ,,,I loved it when Ali fought,,he is the greatest fighter to ever live !! I am not speaking about his personal life but his life as a boxer. I miss him in the worst way. I remember when he fought the englishman Brian LONDON,,, London didn't lay a hand on Ali..

      Ali was a fighter ! He was a boxer, he could Dance better than anyone in the history of boxing. He took on all comers. He was a winner !! He was game to the end. I had first heard about him thru the papers, then I saw his fight with Doug Jones on Friday nite fights in 62 or 63, taped due to bad weather. Jones may have won that fight !!!!!!!! They gave it to Ali.

      There ain't a horse that can't be RODE and a rider that can't be throwed !!!!

      There ain't a fighter that can defeat everyone, someone has your number, Ali had Frazier and NORTON. Oh how that man could fight, speed , foot work, and punch. They said he couldn't punch, but with his speed he timed his punches and down they went !!!! Hail ALI the fighter !!!!!!!

      JR ???? JR. couldn't carry Ali's JOCK strap !!!!!!!!

      JR. ??? JR wouldn't make a pimple on Ali's butt !

      At least Pac will take on all comers and he gives his all in the ring with out a history of running and just pot shotting. HE IS A FIGHTER.

      YOU young boys just don't KNOW SH#T !!!!!!!!

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      • Originally posted by Bee Keepz View Post
        Floyd is a business man and his "0" sells.
        That is the very reason he Cherry PICKS !

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        • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          Ok, Ok.... I get it. You love Manny Pacquiao and hate Floyd Mayweather. Come back to me when you want to talk about boxing and facts because I don't talk to or debate with people who posts like this........




          You will never see or view anything from a non bias perspective. Leave me be fan boy.
          Come on , don't leave,,,,we can debate !!

          I look for outstanding fighters and especially follow their progress !

          I didn't watch boxing that much do to my work back in the late 90's and early 2000's.

          I tried to stay up a little bit.

          I remember the Old fights,, the heavyweights from Patterson, Johanson sp and the GREAT and TERRIBLE SONNY LISTON !!!!! Guys like Cleveland Williams, ect... the Ali and when Frazier came on the scene just way to many to name. Foreman Norton,, Holmes

          Sugar Ray Leonard , Thomas Hearns Roberto Duran, all in their beginnings on TV,,,,,Wilfred Benitez sp,, oh yeah a tremendous fighter with the reputation of not training for the fights cause he was just a natural.

          I have left out tons of fighters. I have watched boxing sitting on my daddys knee in the 50's , Friday Nite fights, didn't miss .

          All the 80's fighters, and the rivalry's , that insued , just great boxing ! I have jumped over chairs hollaring for my guy to win, and running everyone out of the room that talked during the fight !!

          I still love great fighters,,,,ODH won the Tito fight but they gave it to Tito, but ODH didn't have that tweak that made you such a great fighter, cause in that fight he let up the last three rounds. You could see it in other fights.

          You never saw Holyfield let up unless it was in the last years.

          JUST too much to say here.

          I have chosen who I like and why, Jr don't fit that bill, I think based on all I have watched in my life he is a JOKE.

          Pac don't have his skills, but Pac has shown game , he fights , he can knock you out and he won't QUIT.

          I think he can get to JR. I can be wrong , I just want to see the dang fight.

          I try not to think about Arum or KING , they made me sick while you were in diapers .

          good nite mang

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          • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            I don't know fam. Margarito could have possibly cheated back then and on top of that as soon as he fought someone that was good enough (Paul Williams) he lost. Not to mention having trouble with Daniel Santos at 147 and 154. Oscar at 154 was a more dangerous fight than Margarito at 147.

            Miguel Cotto? I think the only thing that sold people on Cotto is that he was entertaining when he fought but he also took alot of unnesscary punishment and almost got put out on several occassions by guys not even close to Mayweather's skill set. Cotto was open for the big shots all day and could not adjust technically to win. Cotto also would get discouraged when his punch wasn't effective or if he was pressured. Honestly, I feel Cotto would have been KO'd if he fought Mayweather. I wanted to see the fight too when they were both undefeated but lets be real.

            Arum didn't want Mayweather to fight Cotto at 140 so how could he have ducked a fighter that wasn't ready for him at his original weight class where he was a title holder, while Floyd just moved up from 135 to 140? Lets keep it real. Cotto got hurt by Zab and was back peddling from Mosley. Wasn't like he completely shut them guys out and Floyd was and always has been technically better then them two. Inorder to beat Mayweather you have to outhink him. People say a jab but even that didn't work in the De La Hoya fight. He didn't stop throwing it. Oscar paid everytime he did. Can't believe people think Oscar won that fight. His face didn't look like a face of a winner. Juan Manuel Marquez did though.
            in the case of Margarito, you are right in that there is always that possibility of him cheating to get to the top. anyway, its moot now since its obvious that Margs is no longer viable as a serious opponent.

            in cotto's case, you are also right in that he gets discouraged when he notices his punches aren't taking an effect. but that was not the cotto we saw fighting Margarito lately. IF (and that's a big IF) cotto would be able to focus on his gameplan and keep his cool in his fight with floyd, i could very well imagine him giving floyd some trouble.

            one thing is for sure, cotto would be a way more viable opponent for floyd than Ortiz!

            i think floyd would get a decent ppv (definitely over a mil) should he fight cotto.

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            • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              Ok, Ok.... I get it. You love Manny Pacquiao and hate Floyd Mayweather. Come back to me when you want to talk about boxing and facts because I don't talk to or debate with people who posts like this........




              You will never see or view anything from a non bias perspective. Leave me be fan boy.
              Now I am bummed, LOL !

              The definition of bias went a bit to far for me.

              bi·as
                 /ˈbaɪəs/ Show Spelled [bahy-uhs] Show IPA noun, adjective, adverb, verb, bi·ased, bi·as·ing or ( especially British ) bi·assed, bi·as·sing.
              noun
              1.
              an oblique or diagonal line of direction, especially across a woven fabric.
              2.
              a particular tendency or inclination, especially one that prevents unprejudiced consideration of a question; prejudice.
              3.
              Statistics . a systematic as opposed to a random distortion of a statistic as a result of sampling procedure.
              4.
              Lawn Bowling .
              a.
              a slight bulge or greater weight on one side of the ball or bowl.
              b.
              the curved course made by such a ball when rolled.
              5.
              Electronics . the application of a steady voltage or current to an active device, as a diode or transistor, to produce a desired mode of operation.

              under #2, I take back my position of bias "that prevents unprejudiced consideration of a question, prejudice" !!

              I do have a great inclination to go with fighters that possess the things I believe makes a great fighter. On that I do not take back.

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              • How has it gone from "Manny will knock Mayweather out in 2 rounds, easy fight" .....to "very difficult fight. Manny may not be there in the end"?

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