Comments Thread For: Roach: Mayweather is a Very Difficult Fight For Pacquiao

[knockoutwiseguy]

Triangle theories are children's theories in boxing or any contact sport. Pac beat Hatton effortlessly in Hatton's best weight while Floyd struggled at his own weight.



See what I mean? These clowns are not ready to give up defending Floyd's excuses. Recent ones are about money. Floyd has to make billions of dollars if he has to take on a very risky fight. Of course, who would forget the ****** unnecessary OST crap.

Until you stop defending roadblocks, all you Floyd apologists have is fantasy. Again, it's so ****ing simple. You can't have everything like a kid want all the toys : Pac is amateurish, he's one-dimensional, he's fought nothing but bums. Then turn around and say Pac is too good, he must be juicing, which is why testing is necessary. Man, I thought it's an easy fight.

Are these clowns ever think before posting? I repeat, it's so simple. Just stick with one and people will take you seriously. You clowns want everything.

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It's the truth,the boy can't box.he never has a plan b when he fights a real boxer.Maaan,he's gonna get his ass mopped...remember I said it.

[Marvellous1]

Robertson, your assessment on how Pac can win, I agree with wholeheartedly. He needs to catch Mayweather with something big on the end of a 5 or 6 punch salvo, hope to hurt Mayweather bad enough and follow up on it. That's his biggest chance. He sure isn't going to outbox Mayweather.

Again, Roach is merely stating the difficulty of such a match. I just think the Marquez III fight was a reality check for him. He knows what he's put into Pacquiao and what they expected to see as a result. I'm not saying Pac should've walked through Marquez, but I think they were expecting him to cut the ring off better, adjust to the movement and not get hit so easily by the straight right. Like you said, if Manny can't do these things better after all this time, he isn't going to do them better in the next six months to a year. Therein lies the problem going into a fight with Mayweather.

[GRUSTLER]

Robertson, your assessment on how Pac can win, I agree with wholeheartedly. He needs to catch Mayweather with something big on the end of a 5 or 6 punch salvo, hope to hurt Mayweather bad enough and follow up on it. That's his biggest chance. He sure isn't going to outbox Mayweather.

Again, Roach is merely stating the difficulty of such a match. I just think the Marquez III fight was a reality check for him. He knows what he's put into Pacquiao and what they expected to see as a result. I'm not saying Pac should've walked through Marquez, but I think they were expecting him to cut the ring off better, adjust to the movement and not get hit so easily by the straight right. Like you said, if Manny can't do these things better after all this time, he isn't going to do them better in the next six months to a year. Therein lies the problem going into a fight with Mayweather.

Come on fam. Pacquiao had 7 years to figure out Juan Manuel Marquez and he could not do it. Dude (Pac) was at his comfortable weight class where he was beating big dudes up while Marquez couldn't even do anything effectively against Mayweather coming off of a lay off but thumped up Pac's skull moving up at 38 years old. Nothing Pac will do would matter against Floyd. Technically and stylistically, Floyd is just too much for Manny. Below is why I feel Pac has NO CHANCE.

Here's the reason why I think Manny doesn't stand a chance.

1. Floyd has the size and longer reach than Manny.

2. Floyd is the most accurate fighter in the sport and Manny gets hit fairly easy.

3. Floyd is the best defensive fighter in the sport and is very elusive. Manny has no defensive game plan and could not even catch and cut off Shane.

4. Manny is at times off balance and throws punches in a wild way (I saw it during the Clottey fight)

5. Pac is fast but Mayweather is pretty fast himself, so Pac won't have a big advantage in the speed department.

6. People keep talking about Pac's power but his damage is done over the course of the fight as he connects. Floyd is known not to be hit much and if so he can take a hit, recover and finish strong (Mosley fight). Pac would have to keep hitting Floyd and as much as people think he will. I just don't see that happening.

7. Pac has good conditioning and so does Mayweather. Pac won't have the luxury of thinking Mayweather will tire or get worse as the fight goes on.

Conclusion: I just don't see anything Pac does that can supersede Mayweather in the ring technically. Pac's biggest attribute is his speed but Floyd has that going for him too. I think Pac's power is overrated. Sure he can hit but the last person he officially put out with one punch is Ricky Hatton. Pac has to hit Mayweather often to damage him and I would bet all my points on that not happening. Also factoring in that Freddie Roach has already gone on record as saying that Floyd is totally different then all Pac's opponents and he has to make Pac see what he sees inorder to beat him while Floyd adjusts during the fight.

Roach has to change Pac's style up that has been successful for him all these years. IF this fight ever happens (which I think it won't) Floyd beats Manny Pacquiao and gets him out of accurately. Pac fans don't get mad at me and call me names because this is strictly my analytical outlook of the two as fighters. You can believe that Pac would win and Floyd fans can believe the their around the 10th/11th rd (corner stoppage). Manny just gets hit too much for my taste and Floyd just hits opponents too much very same thing. Totally up to you but I'm sure Pac gets beat by Floyd.

[robertson1]

Robertson, your assessment on how Pac can win, I agree with wholeheartedly. He needs to catch Mayweather with something big on the end of a 5 or 6 punch salvo, hope to hurt Mayweather bad enough and follow up on it. That's his biggest chance. He sure isn't going to outbox Mayweather.

Again, Roach is merely stating the difficulty of such a match. I just think the Marquez III fight was a reality check for him. He knows what he's put into Pacquiao and what they expected to see as a result. I'm not saying Pac should've walked through Marquez, but I think they were expecting him to cut the ring off better, adjust to the movement and not get hit so easily by the straight right. Like you said, if Manny can't do these things better after all this time, he isn't going to do them better in the next six months to a year. Therein lies the problem going into a fight with Mayweather.

Yeah, there are *****s in Floyds Armour. When i look back at the Mosley fight, 2nd round, watch carefully how Shane's left to the body is followed up by a straight right hand down the pipe..Floyd holds onto Shane's arm tightly. Now Shane knows Floyds hurt, but instead of throwing body and head combos, he holds on at the ropes? MP does not do that, when he senses an opponent to be hurt, he attacks with everything he has. I dont believe Floyd has had to deal with that before. Roach in my opinion is one of the best trainers out there, this is where he must look!

The Marquez fight was an eye opener yes, but even before the fight when the general public thought Pac would smoke him, i thought otherwise. They have a big rivalry, and Marquez has had 2 fights to adjust before going in. I think Pac made the mistake of thinking because he was the bigger guy, faster, and had more power, he would win, but JMM i think trained amazingly, and to be honest, size went out the window when i watched the weigh in. I scored the fight a draw in the end, with Pac to take the win if anyone was to, was very close though.

[chito]

Come on fam. Pacquiao had 7 years to figure out Juan Manuel Marquez and he could not do it. Dude (Pac) was at his comfortable weight class where he was beating big dudes up while Marquez couldn't even do anything effectively against Mayweather coming off of a lay off but thumped up Pac's skull moving up at 38 years old. Nothing Pac will do would matter against Floyd. Technically and stylistically, Floyd is just too much for Manny. Below is why I feel Pac has NO CHANCE.

i would love to think you're right, in fact, your assessment of this match-up was very good. im just wondering why until now floyd doesn't see this as an easy fight as you fans are seeing it? why ask for ridiculous testing? isn't it possible that he sees something in pacquiao that he figured he might lose his zero?

[PACsmash]

It's the truth,the boy can't box.he never has a plan b when he fights a real boxer.Maaan,he's gonna get his ass mopped...remember I said it.

Then make the fight happen if its so easy. All i hear from the *****s is pac sucks, pac is one dimensional, pac cant box, easy win for floyd, etc. why is floyd making it so hard then?? its easy work easy money right?? how come floyd never made any of his pass fights this difficult and his pass opponents is suppose to be wayyyy better than manny right???

[GRUSTLER]

Yeah, there are *****s in Floyds Armour. When i look back at the Mosley fight, 2nd round, watch carefully how Shane's left to the body is followed up by a straight right hand down the pipe..Floyd holds onto Shane's arm tightly. Now Shane knows Floyds hurt, but instead of throwing body and head combos, he holds on at the ropes? MP does not do that, when he senses an opponent to be hurt, he attacks with everything he has. I dont believe Floyd has had to deal with that before. Roach in my opinion is one of the best trainers out there, this is where he must look!

The Marquez fight was an eye opener yes, but even before the fight when the general public thought Pac would smoke him, i thought otherwise. They have a big rivalry, and Marquez has had 2 fights to adjust before going in. I think Pac made the mistake of thinking because he was the bigger guy, faster, and had more power, he would win, but JMM i think trained amazingly, and to be honest, size went out the window when i watched the weigh in. I scored the fight a draw in the end, with Pac to take the win if anyone was to, was very close though.

Pacquiao didn't make no mistake because he was in a longer training camp and said he had something to prove. Marquez is technically a better boxer than Pacquiao hands down. If Marquez didn't try to brawl in the first and second fight and fought like he did in the 3rd, then no way would the fights be considered close but JMM was giving Manny opportunities by opening up but you see in the 3rd fight how he fought his fight and didn't let Pac get into a rhythm. You said Pac made a mistake underestimating JMM but expect me to believe that Pac is going to go in and overwhelm Floyd Mayweather Jr? Pac ain't nothing special. dude is always off balance and has a hard time finding a way in if you don't bring the fight to him. Floyd would and will if the fight happens beat the $h!t out of Pac. Manny is too wide open and cannot work the ring and adjust while Mayweather does it all. Arum did a great job hyping Pac up to be the guy to beat mayweather but even at that time he was still the underdog going into the fight with the bookies. Imagine now after JMM? Roach couldn't figure out Marquez but he is going to help Manny figure out Mayweather? Don't hold your breath. Floyd by KO in the 9th.

[COACH WEBB]

Triangle theories are children's theories in boxing or any contact sport. Pac beat Hatton effortlessly in Hatton's best weight while Floyd struggled at his own weight.

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[maguirre]

i would love to think you're right, in fact, your assessment of this match-up was very good. im just wondering why until now floyd doesn't see this as an easy fight as you fans are seeing it? why ask for ridiculous testing? isn't it possible that he sees something in pacquiao that he figured he might lose his zero?

That's the biggest puzzle. You don't ask for ****** tests if you think it's an easy fight. It's ******. Asking for ****** tests means you don't really mean it when you say it's an easy fight.

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[maguirre]

Dude shut the **** up already. Testing isn't an issue. Come up with something new.

Floyd's newest excuse is Arum has to die first before entering Pac negotiations. See how your idol rinses and repeats the same garbage every time? What does it matter who you are negotiating with? This is not about Israel-*********** peace talks. This is sport. You normally enter negotiations regardless of who is in front of you. You state your case and explain what you want, the other side makes offers, you make counteroffers, normal things you see in negotiations. If Floyd wants $200 million why doesn't he say so? Is he too bashful to ask for more money or what?

Why do you think Floyd wants Arum out of the picture? He wants money. Lots and lots of money, especially when he knows he has to take on an a very risky fight. (I thought the fight was not happening because of the ****** test.) Turned out it's the money.

Just for once, think, bros, think. It's about money, money, money plus Pac has to drop the lawsuit when all Floyd has to do is make apologies for the baseless accusations. That's not the picture of a man who wants Pac badly.

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