Comments Thread For: Roach: Mayweather is a Very Difficult Fight For Pacquiao

[robertson1]

Robertson, it's ironic that you mention Mosley in your post as a common factor. Mosley hit Maywearther with not one, but TWO of his best shots in one round. Mayweather buckled, but his confidence far from disappeared. In fact, he was beating Mosley back by the end of that same said round. I would wager that Mosley hits at least as hard as Manny does (One KO'd Marg, the other didn't, remember). I agree with your sentiment that one punch, especially from Pacquiao, could change the complexion of the fight.

Here's the thing. Roach, I think, seriously had his eyes opened to the fact that regardless of how much work he's done with Pacquiao, movement still troubles him as much as it ever did since his second fight with Marquez. He can still win fights, but doesn't look nearly as convincing doing it. Pacquiao is prone to frustration when hunting a moving target and Roach under no illusion with how close Manny came to losing against Marquez. Mayweather may well be different to Marquez, but the things that Marquez did to give Manny fits (use lateral movement and pop out lead right hand counters), Mayweather does better.

This isn't about "who's fault it is the fight hasn't happened" or "who's the coward (I would never use that word for anyone who steps between those ropes for a living because I wouldn't)". It's Roach sizing up and opponent for his charge, one he's known for years and knows better than any of us. He knew Oscar couldn't pull the trigger anymore, he knew that Mosely was too much about the time he sparked Marg and he knows Mayweather is a stylistic nightmare for Pacquiao (not that Mayweather definitely wins, for all those sensitive types out there). Pacquiao is an exceptional fighter, but "box, move and counter" is like Green K to him.

I wish people would stop taking this all so personally. Be a boxing fan first.

I see where your coming from there, but Im just stating that surely Mosleys comments on Pacs power must have some substance to them? I believe Floyd hit Shane with his best power shots, sure Shane looked wobbely, but he was not floored and genuinely hurt by May, both physcially and mentally.

Yes Floyd will present a nightmare to Pac, and i believe at Pacs age, Roach will have a uphill battle changing Pac entirely for this fight. Floyd will almost certainly fight his usual fight..Duck, avoid and counter, and when attacked or rocked, hold on. I just cannot see Floyd avoiding at least 1 of Mannys left hands, to me, the whole fight depends on Mannys left, and his adjustments, not Floyds

[leonthegee]

I see where your coming from there, but Im just stating that surely Mosleys comments on Pacs power must have some substance to them? I believe Floyd hit Shane with his best power shots, sure Shane looked wobbely, but he was not floored and genuinely hurt by May, both physcially and mentally.

Yes Floyd will present a nightmare to Pac, and i believe at Pacs age, Roach will have a uphill battle changing Pac entirely for this fight. Floyd will almost certainly fight his usual fight..Duck, avoid and counter, and when attacked or rocked, hold on. I just cannot see Floyd avoiding at least 1 of Mannys left hands, to me, the whole fight depends on Mannys left, and his adjustments, not Floyds

Even if Manny lands his left it's still not gonna matter. Manny does not have one punch power at welter.

[knockoutwiseguy]

For manny its a pretty difficult fight. Floyd will probably tweak the marquez strategy. He will circle left but unlike marquez theres a question mark on where Floyd will use the counter right hand. Marquez many time dove into the right hook to take the steam out of it and land his flush counter right hand. Floyd wont risk getting hit like marquez which is why I think manny has to set Floyd up but where, is the question. At what part of a Manny pacquiao combo is Mayweather most likely to strike?

Floyd gonna circle left and put that right down the middle.Basic text book ****.I'll say it again,Manny CAN'T BOX,he just throws a lot of punches.

[GRUSTLER]

I agree with that! Roach and the rest of Team Pacquiao are not ******, i just cant see Pacquiao getting in there with no idea of how to at least try and take out Floyd. I believe Mannys power will be the key factor, if Manny lands a hard flush left to Floyds chin, and he buckles, Floyds confidence could go AWOL. I dont like making comparisons but Sugar Shane stated himself he had not felt power like Mannys. MP landed a left to Shane, which did not look like much of a power shot, and Shane was visibly hurt, i watched an interview with him and he was saying that he had no idea what round it was after taking that shot, and when he asked Nazeem, and Nazeem said round 6, he couldn't remember the last 2 rounds. WTF!

On paper Floyd wins, but one shot and the whole fight changes, and thats from either fighter.

Floyd ate 2 big power shots from Shane and walked him down. Pac's so called power couldn't even get Marquez out of there and Pac would have more luck hitting JMM then Mayweather. I Truly believe Shane threw that fight.

[maguirre]

That's what happens when Team Pac's stipulations and demand's back fire and shoot them in their asses. They were totally caught off guard by Juan Manuel Marquez because of how they thought he looked at 144 against Floyd. They should have not tried to measure Pacquiao to Mayweather because it has been clear as crystal that Manny is not on Floyd's level. Pac was better off fighting Mayweather the first time, instead of having Arum hype him up because now all the hype aurrounding Manny Pacquiao is gone. Arum had Pac fight all these bigger guys to make him look like he moved up dominating but gets beat up by a 38 year old smaller guy.

As usual, this guy's post are nonsense. He keeps saying Pac is not on Floyd's level, yet he's not ready to give up unnecessary roadblocks in the fight. How does that even make sense? Come back when you're ready. Otherwise, no one takes you seriously except your fellow fantasy kids. Why these clowns keep mentioning Marquez is beyond me. They're not even embarrassed by it as if it's Floyd who just fought Pac. They seem to be living vicariously through Marquez's guts. Until Floyd finds balls to fight Pac without being a pu55y, none of your posts will ever make sense.

Makes me puke reading these clowns. It's so ****ing simple. Give up defending the pu55iness and people will listen. If I were a Floyd fan and think he would school Pac in the ring I'd be pissed at Floyd with these unnecessary demands. Here I am saying it's an easy fight, yet I defend ******, unnecessary OST test, how would that make me sound? I would sound like a clown, of course.

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[robertson1]

Floyd ate 2 big power shots from Shane and walked him down. Pac's so called power couldn't even get Marquez out of there and Pac would have more luck hitting JMM then Mayweather. I Truly believe Shane threw that fight.

Floyd was very nearly on his ass, he held onto shane for dear life, had shane managed to get loose and go for the kill, May could have been in serious trouble.

And Marquez? he didnt land any big power shots, especially those awkward lefts that had put down Marquez before.

More luck hitting him? lets just see..Marquez knows Pac, Mayweather doesnt, Floyd may think he knows Pac style inside out, but once there in there, all that **** goes out the window.

[Pactar∂]

Pac: "I take any test!"
Arum: "There are negotiations!"
Roger: "There are negotiations!"
Schaefer, Oscar: "There were no negotiations!"
Ellerbe: "There are no negotiations!"
Roach: "Mayweather is a Very Difficult Fight For Pacquiao!"
Floyd: "Vacation time!!!"

[knockoutwiseguy]

Nonsensical response. Easy fight, easy money, according to Floyd and fans. But where the **** is he? Does Roach even have to call him out if Floyd and fans think it's an easy fight?

Premise A: Roach calls out Mayweather even though he knew it's a difficult fight for his guy.

Premise B: Floyd and fans think it's an easy fight, easy money. Where tf is he?

***** logic: Hmmm...... I don't even know how to put it.

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he's around.He's calling him out right now.He's been calling him out.Tell Manny stop bull****ting and take the test.Floyd has never been scared of Manny.They know that Motha***a can't box...not a lick.My woman is filipino and she's even scared of that fight.She knows Manny can't **** with Floyd.

[Marvellous1]

I hear you, Robertson. I also don't doubt what Mosley said about Manny's power. But Mosley sure isn't going to punch himself to see if he hits harder. I can only go what I have seen. Then again, common opponent, Cotto dealt with Mosleys power but no Pacquiao's. This I put down to Pacquiao's constant barrage which connected to a tactically ****** Cotto (trying to go toe-to-toe rather than box and getting put down. Against Mosley he played much smarter).

Mayweather's greatest asset is to seriously reduce his opponent's productivity. Marquez struggled to land more than 70 punches in 12 rounds. Also, with that reduction goes activity. Against Marquez, Pac usually throws around 5/600 period. Against Clottey, he threw over 1000. We know where he looked better. When a fighter can reduce his collective opponents connectivity to 16%, at the same time landing 45% of his punches, you know he's a tough, tough night's work. Pac will have trouble landing often enough to do the damage he likes to do. Roach knows it. How it will play out is anyone's guess. But it's likeluy Pacquiao will have a hard and frustrating night trying to land and might be made pensive if he gets countered too much.

[GRUSTLER]

As usual, this guy's post are nonsense. He keeps saying Pac is not on Floyd's level, yet he's not ready to give up unnecessary roadblocks in the fight. How does that even make sense? Come back when you're ready. Otherwise, no one takes you seriously except your fellow fantasy kids. Why these clowns keep mentioning Marquez is beyond me. They're not even embarrassed by it as if it's Floyd who just fought Pac. They seem to be living vicariously through Marquez's guts. Until Floyd finds balls to fight Pac without being a pu55y, none of your posts will ever make sense.

Makes me puke reading these clowns. It's so ****ing simple. Give up defending the pu55iness and people will listen. If I were a Floyd fan and think he would school Pac in the ring I'd be pissed at Floyd with these unnecessary demands. Here I am saying it's an easy fight, yet I defend ******, unnecessary OST test, how would that make me sound? I would sound like a clown, of course.

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DENIAL

Floyd beat Marquez effortlessly a year and some change coming out of semi retirement before Pac got smacked up by JMM at 144. That same JMM would have given Pac problems because Pac can't handle counter punchers PERIOD. You're acting like fans of Floyd are just making this stuff up. Roach has confirmed it now and Arum been said he wanted Pac to face a rusty Floyd back in 08 when Floyd was retired. the only idiotic morons have been Pac's loyal fans who make up the dumbest excuses to cosign a guy that has been exposed. I wish Floyd fought Pac without the OST but if he is demanding they do random blood tests then what's the problem. Every professional fighter has said it is no problem except Pac. Even Miguel Cotto questioned Pac's reluctance on taking a simple blood test. How am I supposed to believe that Floyd is scared to fight a guy (Pac) who is hesitant on giving blood and has to hide behind his promoter? Didn't Bob recently say that Pac might not be able to fight Floyd on May 5th because his cut from the Marquez fight has to heal? Ha ha ha ha! You guys are dumb asses forreal.