Cotto's Power At 154

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #11
    Originally posted by Antwuan Maxx
    From round 7 on, that's true. But the punch I'm talking about took place in the 2nd round.

    He was clearly not hurt.

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    • freedom213
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      #12
      I thought his right hand looks to be getting better and better. That shoulder surgery must have really helped him out, plus both Steward and diaz seem to have him really turning the punch over more and throwing it properly. His left is wicked and outside of Margarito and maybe El Perro I dont see anyone at 154 standing up to the onslaught he unleashed on Margarito in those first 5 rounds. At 160 at least against Jr he would have extreme hand and foot speed advantages over that kid and I actually see him getting stoppage before round 9. That fight will be way easier for Cotto because of Chavez' skills and style.

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      • TintaBoricua
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        #13
        I think Cotto's got enough power to at least get people's attention but not as good as it used to be at 147. I wouldn't say he's feather-fisted either.

        You can't rely say, "Well, look at the Margarito rematch." Margarito's got an iron chin, he's proved it again, and again, and again, and again...

        Mayorga's never been a guy to get stopped easily. Tito landed bombs on him for eight rounds before finally stopping him, Mosley looked so-so against him, and Cotto looked better (but still not spectacular). The only guy who dispatched Mayorga with little difficulty was in fact Oscar. Other than that, Mayorga's a tough guy and a tad underrated. He's not an elite fighter, but I wouldn't exactly call him a flat-out bum either.

        Cotto/Canelo- I'd pick Cotto.

        Cotto/JCC Jr- I'd give Cotto the benefit of the doubt but I don't see it happening based on the weight differential. Whoever has to give up territory (ie, move towards the other's division) loses. I'm now interested in looking at JCC's last two fights. He didn't look good in his fight against Sebastian Zbik but he showed how explosive he can be in the Manfredo fight. Not very precise, but explosive...

        The only guy out there right now that is all bad for Cotto is James Kirkland. Pressure fighter with crunching power and does amazing body work. To be fair, Kirkland wasn't hit as much as it seems in the Angulo fight. It was, for the most part, a one-sided beatdown. Kirkland's southpaw stance, body work, explosive power, and relentlessness would be too much for a small junior middleweight in Cotto.

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        • Exciterx30
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          #14
          Originally posted by TintaBoricua
          I think Cotto's got enough power to at least get people's attention but not as good as it used to be at 147. I wouldn't say he's feather-fisted either.

          You can't rely say, "Well, look at the Margarito rematch." Margarito's got an iron chin, he's proved it again, and again, and again, and again...

          Mayorga's never been a guy to get stopped easily. Tito landed bombs on him for eight rounds before finally stopping him, Mosley looked so-so against him, and Cotto looked better (but still not spectacular). The only guy who dispatched Mayorga with little difficulty was in fact Oscar. Other than that, Mayorga's a tough guy and a tad underrated. He's not an elite fighter, but I wouldn't exactly call him a flat-out bum either.

          Cotto/Canelo- I'd pick Cotto.

          Cotto/JCC Jr- I'd give Cotto the benefit of the doubt but I don't see it happening based on the weight differential. Whoever has to give up territory (ie, move towards the other's division) loses. I'm now interested in looking at JCC's last two fights. He didn't look good in his fight against Sebastian Zbik but he showed how explosive he can be in the Manfredo fight. Not very precise, but explosive...

          The only guy out there right now that is all bad for Cotto is James Kirkland. Pressure fighter with crunching power and does amazing body work. To be fair, Kirkland wasn't hit as much as it seems in the Angulo fight. It was, for the most part, a one-sided beatdown. Kirkland's southpaw stance, body work, explosive power, and relentlessness would be too much for a small junior middleweight in Cotto.
          I would say Trinidad put him away fairly easily too, plus Trinidad faced a tougher version of Mayorga, one that had never been dropped. Trinidad got hit because he stands and trade, while Oscar was a boxer-puncher who overwhelmed Mayorga with speed. Mosley looked bad against Mayorga until the KO and Cotto looked so so until the KO.

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          • Check_hooks
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            #15
            Pac had more power at 140 than Cotto has at 154. True Story.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Check_hooks
              Pac had more power at 140 than Cotto has at 154. True Story.
              who cares *******
              Marquez still kicked his ass

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              • mdportorock3
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                #17
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                Yeah we can put it to rest

                He has no power
                Captain obvious, we already know that with out plaster cheato hits like a *****.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TintaBoricua
                  I think Cotto's got enough power to at least get people's attention but not as good as it used to be at 147. I wouldn't say he's feather-fisted either.

                  You can't rely say, "Well, look at the Margarito rematch." Margarito's got an iron chin, he's proved it again, and again, and again, and again...

                  Mayorga's never been a guy to get stopped easily. Tito landed bombs on him for eight rounds before finally stopping him, Mosley looked so-so against him, and Cotto looked better (but still not spectacular). The only guy who dispatched Mayorga with little difficulty was in fact Oscar. Other than that, Mayorga's a tough guy and a tad underrated. He's not an elite fighter, but I wouldn't exactly call him a flat-out bum either.

                  Cotto/Canelo- I'd pick Cotto.

                  Cotto/JCC Jr- I'd give Cotto the benefit of the doubt but I don't see it happening based on the weight differential. Whoever has to give up territory (ie, move towards the other's division) loses. I'm now interested in looking at JCC's last two fights. He didn't look good in his fight against Sebastian Zbik but he showed how explosive he can be in the Manfredo fight. Not very precise, but explosive...

                  The only guy out there right now that is all bad for Cotto is James Kirkland. Pressure fighter with crunching power and does amazing body work. To be fair, Kirkland wasn't hit as much as it seems in the Angulo fight. It was, for the most part, a one-sided beatdown. Kirkland's southpaw stance, body work, explosive power, and relentlessness would be too much for a small junior middleweight in Cotto.

                  I think Cotto has decent pop or everyone would walk him down every time and they haven't so far at the weight.

                  I think you are overrating Kirkland. I think a lot of people are.
                  If Cotto puts a lot of leather on him early, James could decide to box and then he's in trouble/

                  I am down to see Cotto fight a puncher at 154. Why not?

                  I feel like the options for him are going to be limited to the Mexicans because why on earth would he fight Kirkland when he's tasted big bank, and I am not so sure Kirkland could provide it anyways.

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                  • lefthook2daliva
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
                    Cotto was barely able to hurt Foreman with his punches he no power at 154 and his power wasn't very impressive at 147 either.
                    Terminally butthurt.

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                    • KingTito
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                      #20
                      Cotto's got good power. Always has.

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