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  • dannyl15
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    #41
    Cotto fought very well, he wasn't bent over where he is a sucker for uppercuts, and his stamina was better, I am still not convinced he is a jr middleweight, I mean, he was barley a welterweight, he just had good enough pop and boxing skills to fight there, Cotto has fought as low as 135b, that's lightweight, and use to come in below 140 on many occasions, and he got his ass beat by a natural 135lber, 160 is not where he should be, even if he beats Chavez, how good is Chavez, it's a cheap win.

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    • bigsmoothh
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      #42
      Originally posted by TintaBoricua
      Margarito has power. People were acting like all his power would be gone now, which was a ****** thing to say. The same posters who were saying "JMM beat Pacquiao 10-2 or 9-3 in their last fight!" are just as bad as the people saying "Margarito without his wraps isn't stopping anybody." That was a very far-fetched thing to say. He still has respectable punching power. Cotto had to move because Margarito has two attributes that trumps his: stamina and chin. Cotto could've chosen to stay in there and trade with Margarito, but sooner or later Margarito wears you down. It's better to get tired on movement alone rather than movement AND getting punched to the body with hooks and uppercuts.



      Precisely. Margarito landed some good body shots here and there that doubled Cotto over a few times. It's very easy to overlook because of the pro-Cotto crowd and because Margarito's punches aren't that flashy compared to Cotto's 3-4 snapping punch combinations. I could make timemarks and everything for that.

      Cotto, for the most part, moved away from the ropes and fought a better fight this time around and looked good enough to have won 8 or 9 rounds of the fight.



      I would've liked to see the final three rounds as well. However, I believe Margarito was going to get stopped sooner or later. I just can't see Cotto giving in knowing the significance of the fight and the fact that it's in Madison Square Garden. Cotto would've tied Margarito up in the last three rounds and continued to throw combinations while separating himself from Margarito OR move back and then throw a lunging left hand. With Margarito's eye growing increasingly swollen, that area was going to become a very easy target.

      I'm happy that Cotto won, and he avenged his loss. To some degree, he also got his REVENGE, but it wasn't AS COMPLETE as most people wanted.


      you do make good points there. I for one belived cotto was gonna go in there and pick marga apart them ko him mosley style. Cotto did say he was gonna go for the eye to hurt margarito but why? Does hitting someone in his already bad eye get you redemption? or is it just a quick way of winning and trying to look good at doin it?

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      • Pin Galarga
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        #43
        The difference was that without plasters, Margarito wasn't hitting Cotto with bone braking power and also that Margarito couldn't take the punishment He took on the 1st one for the rematch. You can be a great fight when you best atribute is that you take a punch.

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        • TintaBoricua
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          #44
          Originally posted by baya
          i know. cotto's a coward in that he didn't trade and fight like a man with huevos that brought him that first epic fight with margarito. pinche cobarde y e******o el cotto that he wouldn't fight the exact same way and expect a different outcome.

          i've seen real men, take your eye out with a pinche cucharra type men, and cotto's not that guy, again, he's a coward.

          die on your shield esse, this is boxing, you can't box, puto!


          Hahahahahaha, golden...

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          • Steak
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            #45
            maybe you guys need to rematch the first fight. Cotto was fighting in more or less the same way as the rematch, except he was sharper, his punches were landing cleaner and with more power, and his defense was sharper.

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            • heat27
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              #46
              My sig tell the story

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              • jazluvr
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                #47
                Originally posted by heat27
                My sig tell the story


                Lol...i bet your sig has TS frothing at the mouth by now...

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                • TintaBoricua
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by bigsmoothh
                  you do make good points there. I for one belived cotto was gonna go in there and pick marga apart them ko him mosley style. Cotto did say he was gonna go for the eye to hurt margarito but why? Does hitting someone in his already bad eye get you redemption? or is it just a quick way of winning and trying to look good at doin it?
                  No, it doesn't. But it's not just "targetting the eye" that won Cotto the fight. Even before it closed in the third, Cotto was staying off the ropes and moving so as to not give Margarito a clear target. If you stay still--or worse, get trapped in the ropes--Margarito still has the capacity to shred you apart. Margarito with two good eyes couldn't find Cotto, so I have a hard time believing he was going to get to Cotto in the later rounds with one increasingly worsening right eye.

                  His eye was a target, it was a weakness Cotto could exploit. How the hell do you expect to NOT take advantage of something that's there in a fight and within the rules? If you want to point the finger at who's to blame for Margarito's bad eye, point it to his trainer Robert García and Laurence Cole for not stopping the Pacquiao fight. If they had saved Margarito the trouble of going 12 rounds in a fight where he was NOWHERE close to turning around, we wouldn't have this "Cotto was tiring/Margarito was getting stopped" debate that's surrounding the fight.

                  What was Cotto supposed to do? Was he supposed to go, "Margarito used plaster in our fight. He looks and acts like a criminal...but I'm only going to target his left eye. Heaven forbid I hit his bad eye. In fact, I'm not going to throw a single left hand...because it would completely overshadow my footwork, clinching, combination punching, and defense in the fight."

                  Same deal with Margarito. Cotto is known to be a fighter who can't fight for a full three minutes of every round. Should Margarito hold BACK because of that perceived weakness? Of course not! If he has more stamina and is able to withstand Cotto's punches, you walk forward and try to pressure him into submission. To do otherwise (knowing Margarito can't box against him) would be ******. If a fighter has a weakness, you take advantage of it.

                  I get what you're saying about Margarito. That eye played a factor in the fight, and all our su****ions of it falling apart were confirmed. Does that make the fight a fluke? Of course not! Margarito knew what was going to happen going into the fight. He could've said, "No. Lemme finish my contract by fighting unknown fighters without punching power and let me retire without taking more damage." But he didn't. He chose to fight Cotto. He lost.

                  Is the win AS SATISFYING as most people wanted? No. But did Cotto avenge his loss? Yes, he DID.

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