Time for the Mayweather fans to get scared... Hatton's coming!

[Ms. Jones]

Yeah That planet called OPINION!!!

[JUYJUY]

Planet ****** more like.

[Ms. Jones]

You keep replying seems you don't seem so bright yourself!

[TuPrincipe]

I don't agree with any of this.

Maywether is taller than Tszyu, has more reach, and is going to be fighting at Welterweight in a week. He has filled out nicely and is defiantly a 140lber now.

He also is not any different than when he fought Castillo and Corrales, he just adapts different to other styles. In no way would I characterize him as excluivly an offensive fighter.

Mayweather has shown against all different types of fighters that his speed nullifies many different styles.

Hatton is a pressure fighter, and he's going to eat shots and counter shots he won't see coming.

The style match up cleary favors the boxer in Maweather.

I respect your opinion very much but I have to disagree with you on a few points.

Kosta Tszyu has fought his entire career at 140. Floyd started at 130. He is in essence a "blown up jr. lightweight". This is a size difference in many ways as it has been shown in MANY areas ala DLH - Hopkins Pryor - Norris, etc. Those are just off the top of my head there are many more.

Hatton has underrated defense he uses to get inside, the same way that smaller heavies like Joe Frazier and Rocky Marciano would duck, weave, slip and shoot in to close the gap and punish foes. Mayweather is a lot quicker than anything he’s faced and is fast enough to lead with left hooks, something few fighters can do, but he's never fought a fighter like Hatton. I have seen the comparisons to Castillo (Hatton's style), but Hatton is a much faster, much stronger, and is much more conditioned that Castillo ever was.

I don't think Hatton would ever allow Mayweather to dictate the pace. Hatton has always fought with an up-tempo, energetic style and he wouldn't change a thing for Mayweather. He knows he needs to frustrate Floyd out of his rythym. I just see Floyd constantly being on the backfoot much like Tszyu was.

[TuPrincipe]

By the way, it's nice to have a normal conversation about boxing for once.

Cheers.

[Bozo_no no]

I respect your opinion very much but I have to disagree with you on a few points.

Kosta Tszyu has fought his entire career at 140. Floyd started at 130. He is in essence a "blown up jr. lightweight". This is a size difference in many ways as it has been shown in MANY areas ala DLH - Hopkins Pryor - Norris, etc. Those are just off the top of my head there are many more.

Hatton has underrated defense he uses to get inside, the same way that smaller heavies like Joe Frazier and Rocky Marciano would duck, weave, slip and shoot in to close the gap and punish foes. Mayweather is a lot quicker than anything he’s faced and is fast enough to lead with left hooks, something few fighters can do, but he's never fought a fighter like Hatton. I have seen the comparisons to Castillo (Hatton's style), but Hatton is a much faster, much stronger, and is much more conditioned that Castillo ever was.

I don't think Hatton would ever allow Mayweather to dictate the pace. Hatton has always fought with an up-tempo, energetic style and he wouldn't change a thing for Mayweather. He knows he needs to frustrate Floyd out of his rythym. I just see Floyd constantly being on the backfoot much like Tszyu was.

There's a long list of examples of fighters who start at a lower weight class and move up.

Floyd not only has the speed and reflex to get away with it alone, he has the size and reach too.

He looks a lot bigger in the last year than he has before, and he's carrying the weight well.

I don't think the size difference is an issue at all.

And regardless of how much Hatton pressures, Mayweather's shots are going to land 1st regardless of wheather Hatton's throwing 1st, or Floyd's throwing 1st.

Hatton (with an overly lenient referee) baited Tszyu (a fighter who's nothing like Floyd stylistcly) to fight his fight in the trenches. Mayweather's ring savvy and speed allow him to fight effectivly around the ring without dancing, as well as effectivly counter off the ropes.

Hatton has only dealt with one truely great fighter, and it was someone who walked right into his trap.

He's never seen anything like Floyd, and the speed, reflex and skill tip this one in Mayweather's favor without a doubt.

[monkeyboy]

I personally happen to favor the pressure/body shot style of Hatton especially over a long fight. That being said I find it hard to believe that anyone who has watched both fighters could believe that it will be a whitewash for either.
However I just want to say thanks to Bozo and Tu Principe for interesting, valid opinion that is well thought out, informed and intelligent.
It WILL be the fight of the year whenever (if) it takes place though. On that I have no doubt.

[TuPrincipe]

There's a long list of examples of fighters who start at a lower weight class and move up.

Floyd not only has the speed and reflex to get away with it alone, he has the size and reach too.

He looks a lot bigger in the last year than he has before, and he's carrying the weight well.

I don't think the size difference is an issue at all.

And regardless of how much Hatton pressures, Mayweather's shots are going to land 1st regardless of wheather Hatton's throwing 1st, or Floyd's throwing 1st.

Hatton (with an overly lenient referee) baited Tszyu (a fighter who's nothing like Floyd stylistcly) to fight his fight in the trenches. Mayweather's ring savvy and speed allow him to fight effectivly around the ring without dancing, as well as effectivly counter off the ropes.

Hatton has only dealt with one truely great fighter, and it was someone who walked right into his trap.

He's never seen anything like Floyd, and the speed, reflex and skill tip this one in Mayweather's favor without a doubt.

I think the jury's still out on Floyd being "The man" at 140. He has filled out his weight at 140 like you have said, but do you really think Hatton is going to freeze up when he is being countered by Mayweather like Gatti did? I don't think so.

Hatton and his team created a perfect gameplan to beat Tszyu. By the first bell Hatton knew exactly what he had to do to beat Tszyu and carried his executed his gameplan without error. Not only did he not let Tszyu's right hand the amount of time he was used to but he bullied Zoo for parts of the fight and Zoo isnt a small light welter by any means like I said previously.

Mayweather himself is a little lean by 140 standards when you look at the likes of Hatton, Gatti (even though he moved up to 147) and Cotto. Hatton would bully Floyd at times, and I see Floyd constantly being on the backfoot, and trying to dance his way to victory.

I don't know anyone who goes to the body quite as efficiently as Hatton so again there is another reason why Hatton would win. Hatton would work the body, and sap the energy and strength of Floyd during the course of the fight.

Remember, Castillo could not go to the body agaisnt Floyd, but Castillo generally isn't very fast and he does not cut off the ring like Hatton does. A dancing Mayweather will not beat Hatton.

Sooner or later, Hatton's going to get to him.

[Bozo_no no]

I think the jury's still out on Floyd being "The man" at 140. He has filled out his weight at 140 like you have said, but do you really think Hatton is going to freeze up when he is being countered by Mayweather like Gatti did? I don't think so.

Hatton and his team created a perfect gameplan to beat Tszyu. By the first bell Hatton knew exactly what he had to do to beat Tszyu and carried his executed his gameplan without error. Not only did he not let Tszyu's right hand the amount of time he was used to but he bullied Zoo for parts of the fight and Zoo isnt a small light welter by any means like I said previously.

Mayweather himself is a little lean by 140 standards when you look at the likes of Hatton, Gatti (even though he moved up to 147) and Cotto. Hatton would bully Floyd at times, and I see Floyd constantly being on the backfoot, and trying to dance his way to victory.

I don't know anyone who goes to the body quite as efficiently as Hatton so again there is another reason why Hatton would win. Hatton would work the body, and sap the energy and strength of Floyd during the course of the fight.

Remember, Castillo could not go to the body agaisnt Floyd, but Castillo generally isn't very fast and he does not cut off the ring like Hatton does. A dancing Mayweather will not beat Hatton.

Sooner or later, Hatton's going to get to him.

Again, I don't agree with any of this.

Nowhere did I say Floyd was the man at 140, nor did I say Hatton would freeze up like Gatti.

Castillo did hit Floyd to the body a lot, and it left him open for counter shots upstairs.

Also, Hatton's plan for Tszyu was effective beacause Tszyu played right into it.

Again, with Mayweather being nothing like Tszyu, that's not relevent.

I think Floyd carries 140 very well, and he looks a lot thicker in the upper body. I don't buy the size disadvantage at all.

The more Hatton goes to the body, the more he leaves himself open upstairs.

Mayweather does not need to dance to beat Hatton. He needs to use the geography of the ring to keep Hatton centered, rip quick shots as Hatton comes at him, and counter him in the trenches.

In each case, his speed is the difference and the deciding factor.

Hatton has never seen a fighter anywhere near Mayweather's style, skill, or speed.

Floyd has seen several fighters with Hatton's style.

I don't agree with anything I'm hearing from you, and I don't see the fight playing out like that at all.


We'll have to agree to disagree, and see what happens when and if this fight comes off.

[TuPrincipe]

Fair enough and I'm certainly in agreement on agreeing to disagree (if that makes sense) .

My last statement will be fairly simple:

Speed doesn't neutralize everything. There have been many examples where the slower swarmer has beat the faster boxer and vice versa.

The thing that makes this fight so intriguing is they are both undefeated, both in there primes, and stylistically this seems like an all out war for both sides.

This fight NEEDS to happen.