Mayweather was offered around 7 Million Dollars to fight Margarito!!!

[Curt Henning]

oh so the story and quotes are made up? was this the invention of fake news?

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2420382


so arum got 7 mil for floyd to fight unknown margarito but aint got 10 mil for him to fight cotto or hatton a year later?

i think we can all see how delusional and see through bob is and has been.....the writing was on the wall for arum.....they had already had a spat and bob knew floyd was on his way out

the thing is when floyd actually left old bob thought things were good with them and he would use TR the way he ended up using golden boy.....ole bob ended up getting even more pissed when floyd used GB though instead and started making tons of money...and arum went full speed to continue perpetuating the myth.....but you notice how easy it was for floyd to make that cotto fight after cotto got out of TR?

even at the end of the day margs is someone who got his stool pushed in by old ass shane.....he never was a threat....floyd would have boxed circles around that guy....if margs hadnt made mockery of his career and actually went on to be something you guys might have a case....but you dont have a leg to stand on

[Dean_Razorback]

this poster was dead on. floyd probably had him assassinated. r.i.p.

even back in 2005 people knew hoya was past it but in present day you have people pretending like it was some huge challenge moving up to take that fight...guy was dead on with his comments about beating names that were past it. thats all he did!

i was wondering why someone bumped this thread. damn, 12 years ago and they already got floyd all figured out

[daggum]

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2420382


so arum got 7 mil for floyd to fight unknown margarito but aint got 10 mil for him to fight cotto or hatton a year later?

i think we can all see how delusional and see through bob is and has been.....the writing was on the wall for arum.....they had already had a spat and bob knew floyd was on his way out

the thing is when floyd actually left old bob thought things were good with them and he would use TR the way he ended up using golden boy.....ole bob ended up getting even more pissed when floyd used GB though instead and started making tons of money...and arum went full speed to continue perpetuating the myth.....but you notice how easy it was for floyd to make that cotto fight after cotto got out of TR?

even at the end of the day margs is someone who got his stool pushed in by old ass shane.....he never was a threat....floyd would have boxed circles around that guy....if margs hadnt made mockery of his career and actually went on to be something you guys might have a case....but you dont have a leg to stand on

not sure what kind of straw man you are trying to create by conflating these things but it didnt work. he turned down marg for 7 million and foght sharmba for 4 instead. why bring up floyd demanding a 20 million guarantee to fight hoya and then accepting 10 later? that just further proves my point that he had no interest in these top rank guys. it was easy to make the cotto fight because cotto was not hte same fighter. just like it was easy to make the pac fight after he got knocked out but does that mean we should ignore how floyd duckd it and wanted pac to take a 40 million flat fee? i still want you to explain how fighting sharmba for 4 was better than marg for 7. you tried to distract but lets get back to the topic.

[daggum]

Your obsession with Floyd, Ward, and hell..any black American fighter is disturbing. I'm sure you must of had your ***** snatched by the BBC at some point in your life for you too keep so many black fighters ****s planted so firmly down your throat

when did i bring up race? floyd is overrated and never fought the best fighters of his era. ward is a cheater that got away with cheating to win. they didn't do that because they were black. they did that because they were entitled boxers. stay on topic. there are plenty of good american fighters that i like such as crawford, spence, and eric crumble. i dont have to like everyone and pretend they are all great when some are cheaters.

[Curt Henning]

not sure what kind of straw man you are trying to create by conflating these things but it didnt work. he turned down marg for 7 million and fight sharmba for 4 instead. why bring up floyd demanding a 20 million guarantee to fight hoya and then accepting 10 later? that just further proves my point that he had no interest in these top rank guys. it was easy to make the cotto fight because cotto was not hte same fighter. just like it was easy to make the pac fight after he got knocked out but does that mean we should ignore how floyd duckd it and wanted pac to take a 40 million flat fee? i still want you to explain how fighting sharmba for 4 was better than marg for 7. you tried to distract but lets get back to the topic.

im afraid of needles!!!!!! oh sure it was def floyd who was ducking pac though!!!!!

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"The question with a Mayweather fight is at what weight? That's the big question. At 140, I don't think there's any problem making that fight." - 4/17/09

"If Floyd wants to come in at a higher weight, I don't know. A catch-weight is a possibility also." - 4/17/09

"You can tell Floyd Mayweather that Bob Arum says he's delusional. Floyd is not the attraction. Manny is the attraction." - 06/02/09

"Even a 50/50 split with Mayweather is nonsense." - 5/31/09

"He's just a problem and a head case and it'd be very, very difficult to put a match together." - 09/10/09

"People don't want to spend money watching a defensive fighter. That's the problem." - 09/10/09

"Mayweather will not engage his opponent and that makes a stinkin' fight." - 09/10/09

"People know Mayweather now. They know the son of a gun doesn't fight. He fights scared." - 09/10/09

"The fight that should be made is Mayweather and Shane Mosley, but Mayweather won't take that fight." - 10/7/09

"Cotto probably beats Mayweather. I think Manny probably beats Mayweather and I think Mosley beats Mayweather." - 10/7/09

"Money is secondary with him. He will not take a chance like a normal fighter." - 10/7/09

"He cares more about his legacy and being able to retire undefeated, so he could say that he never lost a fight." - 10/7/09

"It has to be March 13...because he is running for office, Manny can't fight on May 1st." - 12/04/09

"Schaefer sent me a new draft of the contract and he says to me that it has to be at the MGM Grand and nowhere else. Why?" - 12/10/09

"Doctors will tell you that blood-testing is not even sure anymore and urinalysis is the state-of-the-art testing for drugs." - 12/22/09

"Their [NSAC] drug testing is the best in the world and its an insult to them." - 12/22/09

"Who is this ignorant, illiterate kid demanding this. Who is he? This has never ever happened in professional boxing." - 12/22/09

"[Mayweather] had no intention of coming in at 147." - 12/22/09

"I'm not going to bully this kid and Freddie [Roach] is adamant about that point." - 12/22/09

"Mayweather knows Manny's phobia for giving blood, and he's using that to get out of the fight." - 12/23/09

"Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing." - 12/23/09

"He [Pacquiao] doesn't want to do it [give blood] when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight." - 12/23/09

"I'm not going to let Manny be compromised, and Manny is not going to let himself be compromised." - 12/23/09

"Nothing can possibly [be] done in the interim period that wouldn't be detected and shown by urinalysis." - 12/23/09

"Floyd never really wanted the fight and this is just harassment of Pacquiao." - 12/23/09

"He knew that Manny gets freaked out when his blood gets taken, and feels that it weakens him." - 12/23/09

"Floyd, to me, is a coward and he's always been a coward...he's afraid to face somebody who could beat him." - 12/23/09

"Manny has told me he doesn't want to be harassed." - 12/23/09

"We're not using an amateur organization [USADA] for amateur athletes." - 12/23/09

"It's about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures." - 12/23/09

"He will subject himself to three tests; one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one thirty days from the fight, no later than February 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Manny's locker room." - 12/23/09

"The United States Anti Doping Agency (USADA) cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined." - 12/23/09

"This fight is absolutely off. That's our position, period, is that we're moving on to Malignaggi." - 12/25/09

"If Mayweather loses this fight, and all of this money, then he has only one guy to blame, and that's Richard Schaefer. This is not Mayweather. This is Richard Schaefer." - 12/25/09

"I'm not going to deal with Richard Schaefer on instructions from my client. He's demeaned and libeled my client for no damn reason." - 12/25/09

"We'd only do it [testing] with the Nevada Athletic Commission. But for now, Manny has asked me to move on to Malignaggi." - 12/25/09

"Manny will do a blood test, as required, to get his new boxing license in January...Manny will also do another blood test after the fight. End of story." - 12/26/09

"If they do not agree to this, then that's the end for Mayweather as far as Pacquiao is concerned. Then Mayweather will never, never fight Manny." - 12/26/09

"If they go to the commission and they ask for blood tests and the commission says yes, we will do whatever the commission says." - 12/27/09

"Blood testing we think is unnecessary, but fine, we'll do it. But let the commission set the parameters." - 12/27/09

"It's a very good point to point out that Manny was tested so close to the [Hatton] fight...What will Manny do? I assume he will listen to me, but I can't promise anything." - 12/30/09

"They made the 14 day offer and Todd sent a text message to (Pacquiao's agent) Michael Koncz in the Philippines. Five minutes later, Koncz replied and said Manny rejected that." - 01/08/10

"The fight can be made later but Mayweather should go out a get a real, professional promoter. He should get someone like Don King." - 01/08/10

"Pacquiao considered Mayweather's demand to be bullying. He is one tough Filipino and nobody is bullying Manny Pacquiao." - 01/17/10

"If a man is in training for the fight and you take blood from him, it weakens him for a period." - 01/21/10

"The nurses sometimes can't find the vein. They keep poking and poking and poking and by the time they get the blood out, you can't move your arm for 3 days or 4 days." - 01/21/10

"This whole idea of blood testing was, in my opinion, Floyd's way to get into Manny head and screw up Manny's concentration on the fight." - 01/21/10

"If you want blood testing after the fight, then you subject the fighter to the risk of infection. If you've ever been in a dressing room after a fight you know that it's not sanitized." - 01/21/10

"All I'm saying, right now we are holding to our position [24-day cutoff]." - 05/04/10

"The more we go public the more each side gets put into a corner and less likely the fight is to happen." - 05/07/10

"Once you start negotiating through the media, it becomes ego driven." - 05/13/10

"If you want your product seen by the most people, you have to put it in the biggest venue." - 05/13/10

"Mayweather asked for a number so high that he indicated he didnt' want the fight. Take a guess what number he asked for himself...100 million...for himself." - 03/22/11

"Recently, as recent as this week, legitimate people from Singapore offered Mayweather $65 million dollars to fight Manny Pacquiao and he turned it down." - 06/03/11

"Mayweather can be popular and bring in the people and so forth, but he doesn't bring in the people who are really the big punters, the people who bet $100,000 or $250,000 on a hand of baccarat." - 06/04/10

"Floyd says a lot of things and I chose to believe differently...Mayweather says a lot of things that he does not believe." - 06/06/10

"There's no longer any issues. The question is whether Mayweather is willing to fight this year." - 06/30/10

"The venue issue is about where it's most remunerate, and because of Manny's popularity with Asian gamblers, it would be at the MGM or Thomas & Mack." - 06/30/10

"The question is whether Mayweather is willing to go into the ring this year. It's up to him. His people would love him to do it. He may not want to do it." - 06/30/10

"The only issue is whether he wants to fight in November." - 06/30/10

"We don't care who's doing the test. They stopped taking blood 18 days before [Mayweather-Mosley], so that shows they can do it and be fine." - 07/06/10

"I'm just saying that I would think that a lot of the problem is Roger's status. I don't know for sure, and nobody's told me this, but I would believe that he's concerned about Roger's availability and what Roger's status would be." - 07/06/10

"In my opinion, there are reasonable grounds for him not to want to fight this year. And those grounds essentially relate to Roger." - 07/15/10

"We're ready to go on with the Mayweather fight, but we have to make contingency plans just in case." - 07/17/10

"Even though Mayweather hasn't responded by the deadline my answer is a simple one -- it's dead when we conclude a deal with an opponent for Manny to fight." - 07/17/10

"Floyd, for whatever reason, and I'm sure he had some valid reason, didn't want to commit." - 07/17/10

"But, why should it be done by the United States Anti-doping Agency (USADA) when you have a Philippine fighter and an American fighter?" - 07/07/11

"Wouldn't it be better if it would be done by the Olympic drug-testing organization?" - 07/07/11

"We can arrange for the Olympic Organization to handle the test under the supervision of the Athletic commission respective of the state where the fight is going to be held." - 07/07/11

"We have an organization that has no authority (USADA) and even does it (blood-testing) without reporting to an organization that is responsible for the conduct of the fight." - 07/07/11

"We don't believe USADA (United States Anti-Doping Agency) is a neutral organization." - 07/09/11

"Who knows if Mayweather is going to be around next year to fight? I mean, he has real problems...what is Mayweather's criminal situation and will he be around in 2012 to fight Pacquiao or anybody else?" - 09/23/11

"What Mayweather hates is Manny's right hand. Mayweather has no chin and Manny will knock him out." - 10/27/11

"Pacquiao and Mayweather is a three or four-round fight. Period. And who knows that best? Mayweather." - 10/27/11

"He understands boxing and Mayweather can not compete with Manny." - 10/27/11

"They've already said that it's May 5. They already said that it's at the MGM. How dare them...And who are they to say what date that the fight would be held? What kind of of negotiation is that?" - 11/03/11

"The way they are going about it seems like a bizarre way to go about it. If you want to put it together, you meet, you talk." - 11/04/11

"When they want to do some serious negotiating somebody will call me or Todd [duBoef] and we will sit down and talk." - 11/04/11

"You know who the little fellow that they already approached? It's Erik Morales, and Erik will confirm it – absolutely. Erik has been approached to make the fight." - 11/06/11

"They bull****ted the MGM to get the date, to get May 5. So they cut us out of getting May 5." - 11/06/11

"That fight [Mayweather] can still be there for us in November [2012]...[Pacquiao] did not have the finish he wanted [vs. Marquez]." - 11/14/11

"If we decide we want to do a rematch with Marquez, there is no reason to sit down with Mayweather." - 11/14/11

"We've been fielding proposals and we're talking to people. I'm sure that Floyd's doing the same...Mayweather is going solo." - 11/27/11

"Richard [Schaefer] is on the outside looking in. Who knows and who cares what Richard says? They have no contract with Floyd, that's fact." - 11/29/11

"Manny needs time for that eye cut [from the Nov. 12 Marquez III bout] to heal properly." - 11/29/11

"Nobody has a date for anything. That's nonsense...It doesn't necessarily have to be on May 5. I mean, if Floyd wants to fight Pacquiao, maybe another date is preferrable, given the fact that Pacquiao had a serious cut in the last fight, so there's no magic in May 5 as far as we're concerned." - 12/04/11

"Mayweather really can't commit anything now, because next week, he's before the courts. So if the trial is going to happen, he can't do the fight." - 12/10/11

"May 5 is out for us, it can't happen, because we want to explore the idea of getting a [temporary] stadium/arena up on the streets of Las Vegas that can seat 40,000." - 01/06/12

"I don't know that he's on schedule to start sparring until the beginning of April." - 01/06/12

"I don't even know if Mayweather will be licensed [by the Nevada State Athletic Commission] before he serves his time." - 01/07/12

"[Mayweather] is apparently going to fight Robert Guerrero. Can you believe that. They won't do any business at all." - 01/07/12

"I always believed that Mayweather would pick a Hispanic fighter for May 5 and we were good with that and didn't want to interfere with his business." - 01/10/12

"If Mayweather wants to fight Manny he has to say I want to fight Manny and I'm willing to fight at the end of May because in good conscience I'm not going to leave $40 million on the table." - 01/10/12

"Knowing Floyd the way I know Floyd, Floyd is probably looking for an ordinary kind of opponent in May." - 01/10/12

"November is the optimum date to promote a fight." - 01/10/12

"Until we hear from Mayweather that he wants to fight Manny in May, you really can't pin Manny down." - 01/11/12

"In order to maximize revenues from the fight, you have to have a stadium larger than the MGM Grand which holds 16,500." - 01/11/12

"The problem remains the same in that no one from Mayweather's side would guarantee his purse." - 01/13/12

"We don't want to sit down with somebody who may not be authorized...I'm not going to sit down with anybody unless that person is authorized." - 01/16/12

[Curt Henning]

sharmba was his first fight at WW...first fight move up...lighter touch is acceptable...4 mil to fight sharmba considering 7 to fight margs is about even when considering things....floyd made a fine choice...he wasnt acclimated to weight and margarito was bigger...and even had fought at 154....pretty simple really

but uhhh anyway...back to that whole "it was floyd ducking pac for years"....you make through the first 20 of arums excuses yet or did u quit already?

[daggum]

sharmba was his first fight at WW...first fight move up...lighter touch is acceptable...4 mil to fight sharmba considering 7 to fight margs is about even when considering things....floyd made a fine choice...he wasnt acclimated to weight and margarito was bigger...and even had fought at 154....pretty simple really

but uhhh anyway...back to that whole "it was floyd ducking pac for years"....you make through the first 20 of arums excuses yet or did u quit already?

seems about 3 million dollars off from even.

yes pac didnt call floyds bluff for a couple years then he did and floyd refused to fight so we know he was just bluffing. suddenly go from 50-50 to a 40 million flat fee? it was a bluff. he didn't want to fight. why are you pretending that we dont have that information?

thanks for admitting he ducked margarito though. it wasnt that hard. did life change in any way? no.

[daggum]

i was wondering why someone bumped this thread. damn, 12 years ago and they already got floyd all figured out

yeah people knew back then his MO. easy fights against faded names and he did exactly that.

[daggum]

as for marg being a no one and somebody he didn't have to fight...






seems like he was a pretty relevant guy and he had a mexican following. the same following floyd always went after. thats why he picked guys like marquez, ortiz, guerrero, canelo, etc...because he knew it would do big numbers yet when it was marg...no thanks. we got baldomir, sharmba, and zab coming off a loss to baldomir. stacked!

marg beat undefeated martinez and cotto. 2 wins floyd himself wishes he had and had 7 top 10 wins at welterweight so im not sure how he was a nobody. wishful thinking perhaps but dont worry hes got sharmba the unranked guy instead. he made the sacrifice and chose winning over legacy and now he has to live with the criticism.

[Floyd is TBE]

This is really what things have come to lmao