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  • The Big Dunn
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    #11
    Originally posted by ThePrince
    Kevin Iole said the same thing the other day. Wouldn't complain about finally seeing that fight, the weight might be an issue though. Iole also said that a big part of Cotto possibly leaving is Miguel not being happy with Arum/Top Rank defending Margarito with the wraps issue. Apparently that's caused a lot of friction behind the scenes and Cotto was never keen on Tony making more money off of him because he's 1000% percent convinced he used the same wraps against him he did against Mosley, or at least tried with the latter. But a $5 million guarantee, PPV upside, and a fight at a sold out MSG was too much to pass up.

    But Cotto did miss out on a few months and at least one fight last year with his shoulder surgery. Top Rank got Donaire on that technicality (injury time not being credited to the contract's time frame), so I'm sure they'd do the same if Cotto wanted out.
    Problem is if cotto wins big, TR probably keeps him. Cotto loses, no floyd fight. That said floyd/cotto would be better than floyd/canelo or floyd/morales (which even I wouldn't buy).

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    • MrRolltide91
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      #12
      if cotto wins i know arum will offer cotto a pacquiao rematch

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #13
        Originally posted by MrRolltide91
        if cotto wins i know arum will offer cotto a pacquiao rematch
        especially if this fight does 700k or more ppv's.

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        • arraamis
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          #14
          Originally posted by Simply Zyzz
          John (Chicago)

          This is Cotto's last fight under his Top Rank contract. Are you hearing any rumblings that he may leave Arum after this fight or is it a foregone conclusion that he will re-up?


          Dan Rafael
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          It is his last fight although I am sure Top Rank will point to extensions or injury time or whatever and will believe he is still under contract. I dont think his leaving or staying is automatic. After the fight I would imagine he and his team will sit down with TR and discuss the future. I will say this -- and I have heard rumblings of this scenario -- if he leaves TR it would not shock me whatsoever if he went to Golden Boy and wound up fighting Mayweather on May 5.


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          This makes more sense than the crap Arum's been spewing about a Manny vs Floyd fight.

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          • MrRolltide91
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            #15
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            especially if this fight does 700k or more ppv's.
            and thing is we don't know who manny will fight next.

            bradley, jmm, or floyd.

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            • TintaBoricua
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              #16
              Originally posted by Simply Zyzz
              John (Chicago)

              This is Cotto's last fight under his Top Rank contract. Are you hearing any rumblings that he may leave Arum after this fight or is it a foregone conclusion that he will re-up?


              Dan Rafael
              (12:06 PM)

              It is his last fight although I am sure Top Rank will point to extensions or injury time or whatever and will believe he is still under contract. I dont think his leaving or staying is automatic. After the fight I would imagine he and his team will sit down with TR and discuss the future. I will say this -- and I have heard rumblings of this scenario -- if he leaves TR it would not shock me whatsoever if he went to Golden Boy and wound up fighting Mayweather on May 5.


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              If that happens, it'd give the media another reason for them to see WHO is holding up the fight Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. By a fighter making a move to Golden Boy and Mayweather quickly making the fight happen, it shows that Arum is most likely the one causing friction in the negotiations.

              And as a second note, Cotto would get embarrassed by Mayweather. I've NEVER had faith in Cotto beating Mayweather. Maybe back then when he was undefeated and had swagger but at this point, he's not beating Mayweather...it doesn't mean I wouldn't watch it (Cotto is my favorite fighter), but Cotto would eat that right hand over and over again.

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              • ИATAS
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                #17
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                Makes sense... he's fought everyone important under Top Rank... nothing else to gain... get out, and fight others... If Cotto signs with GB he gets a Floyd fight guaranteed.
                Floyd? Or Canelo? Or maybe even Kirkland?

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MrRolltide91
                  and thing is we don't know who manny will fight next.

                  bradley, jmm, or floyd.
                  I remian optimistic its floyd.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ИATAS206
                    Floyd? Or Canelo? Or maybe even Kirkland?
                    Nice 2 fight deal, floyd and Canelo.

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