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I think the interesting thing with this fight still is Floyd is very much used to fighters who are in front of him all the time to where he can counter and throw lead rights. With Pacquiao, he's not the hardest guy to hit, but at the same time he moves around, has good head movement, and you have to be concerned with landing on him and Pac not landing 1 or 2 shots in between. In order for Floyd to have a dominant victory over Pac, and Ive said this before, we need to see "Pretty Boy" in this fight, not the economical "Money May".
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I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY FIGHT. I wonder what type of video your gonna post after Mayweather knocks Pacquiao the F*&k out!
Mayweathers right hand lead is more dominate than anything Pacquiao can bring into the fight. A southpaws worst nightmare is a sharp counter punching fighter with a good solid fast right cross. Pacquiao will be beat into submission. Oh yeah every video you posted who won those fight without any argument, lol thats right son. Money Mayweather!Comment
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Floyd doesnt have Power to KO Pac,I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY FIGHT. I wonder what type of video your gonna post after Mayweather knocks Pacquiao the F*&k out!
Mayweathers right hand lead is more dominate than anything Pacquiao can bring into the fight. A southpaws worst nightmare is a sharp counter punching fighter with a good solid fast right cross. Pacquiao will be beat into submission. Oh yeah every video you posted who won those fight without any argument, lol thats right son. Money Mayweather!
Pac will probably KO Floyd if he decides to go on shell modeComment
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I promise you it will end by 9 rounds. Pacquaio will be lost in the sauce, frustrated swollen and beaten, in the body and to the head. You idiots are to funny. So you believe that a 106 pound bum can ko Pacquiao but not the 147 pound welterweight world P4P CHAMPION!Comment
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Bro, i wasnt gonna reply but i thought i should , for your sake.
I watched that video. If u made it, nice work and nice song.
The points the video addresses:
1) You know Floyd isnt going to use that Orthodox shell defense against Manny. Did you see the tweeked shell defense he use against Vic? He ducks/slips to his right avoiding straight lefts/left hooks and uses his elbow to block rights. But it isnt all about shell defense. Theres a lot more, control of distance etc
2) The clip you showed of manny and marquez wasnt a counter. It was based on manny timing marquez and beating him to the punch because manny timed it very well and they have the same arm length. Its not a counter punch per say bro.
If u wanna see manny countering jabs watch the margarito fight. Its a beautiful example of manny following the game plan and countering margaritos jab. Hold on il show u:
^ its the manny vs tony fight ( sorry i dont know how embedding is done )
Forward to 10.10 and u can see manny just hovering inside/outside of tonys jabbing range. Why so?
Note that any time tony got a little too close manny shot his straight lefts and moved or shot his straight lefts to the body to keep tony back.
He did that because they ( roach/manny ) wanted to exploit tonys epically slow jab and footspeed. Manny is much faster.
The onslaught starts at 11.05 . Manny baits Tony to throw the jab by staying in jab range and the starts countering with a right-left-right, sometimes hitting a straight left to the body of tony. Towards the last minute of that round manny really starts putting a little bit of a beating on tony with this countering.
I believe it continued up until round 10 before his corner made adjustments or manny abandoned it. Who knows. Hats off to roach for the game plan, limiting and exploiting margarito ( slow jab, slow foot speed ) and using mannys tools well ( fast hand speed, fast footspeed ).
This is a reason why floyd is very dangerous to them ( manny/roach ). Floyd has very fast hands and very fast footspeed. On top of that he has a 5 inch reach advantages over manny and to top it off even more floyd mayweather jr's timing is impeccable. He will sit and wait and time you like stealth assassin. very dangerous.
Manny will have an extremley hard time countering floyds jab. very hard.
3) The video showed Floyd shooting a straight right to the body of zab judah, not a jab as said in the video bro. I dont know if you noticed it but floyd fainted a jab to the head first , then went to the body. Kinda makes it more difficult. i agree with the counter right hook thing though.
What that clip doesnt show is the full story. floyd went for that right to the body by feinting with the left, then shootin the right two times already ( once in round 1, twice in round 2 ) and zab caught him the 3rd time. Floyd stopped immediatly the right to the body immediatly that round.
He made a slight adjustment the next round by shooting the right to the body and then leaning in to zab after to tie him up/clinch and avoid the counter.
Watch the fight bro. Its there for you to see, thats if you want to
U cant compare marquez to floyd in the clip. Marquez in the clip slipped
mannys straight left to the inside and got caught with mannys right hook .
Then in the 2nd clip marquez threw a jab at mannys head and got caught with a counter right hook by manny. You are showing totally different things brother
4) This is just blatant hate bro. I wont even go there dude. Its a shame really that you think that was the only reason why floyd performed the way he did against marquez. You say floyd didnt have the power to scare marquez? wasnt there a knockdown in the fight dude?
Also, Floyd didnt use much movement either. He stood infront of marquez. And Manny is always the aggressor ( even in your clip hes walking juan down ) because manny loves to exchange.
Bro just stop your hating . It aint right.
5) Come on dude. Is this even worth an answer bro?
6) Same with this. is this worth an answer? The clips you showed of vic and floyd were the ones where floyd was using bait-jabs to get vic to come in and catch him with short rights. Dude come on. If you cannot see that then i am just going to say u should watch more closely dude.
You have understand that vic was also 14lbs heavier. Manny wont have that weight advantage man. Come on, be real.
7) We agree on something. If floyd just "shells up" as u put it, he will have a lot of trouble because manny can really let his hands go if he is given the chance. But floyd doesnt just "shell up" as people think. He high elbow blocks, head controls or clinches/ties up.
Manny is ridiculously easy to clinch/tie up. He was clinched and tied up repeatedly by Shane Mosely , a lot too. Floyd is very very good at tieing up and clinching his opponents when they get too close, or push their heads/shoulders or straight up head control and clinching when he needs to. If manny gets close, expect clinch city from floyd and the ref seperating them alot.
Honestly dude Roach will have to come up with elite game plan to beat floyd and manny would have to fight perfectly to beat him.
Mayweather jr is a very gifted and talented fighter. Stop your hate and witness his art.
I dont really care how he is outside the ring and i agree he can be obnoxious or what ever.
Inside the ring he is smart and his art is so wonderful to watch.
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Whats up with the MYTH that Mayweather has trouble with southpaws?:think
Floyd Mayweather vs DEMARCUS CORLEY
Mayweather Landed 47% of his 50 punches per round and 53% of his power shots.
Mayweather Outlanded Corley 283-150 in total punches.
Mayweather Dropped Corley in 8th & 10th rounds, landing 28 power shots in 8th & 34 in 10th.
OH and Mayweather shoulder rolled all night on Corley...
8th & 10th rounds...problems with southpaws?
Mayweather Finished strong, outlanding Corley 120-44 in power shots over last 5 rounds.
Scoring: 119-107; 118-108; 119-108
Floyd Mayweather vs Zab Judah
Mayweather dropped first 2 rounds on 2 cards after getting outlanded 11-5 in power shots in opening 6 minutes. Start of round 3 All Floyd from then on, as he outlanded Judah 153-53 in power shots, including 28-2 in the 9th. Floyd played some “D” as well, as Judah landed in single digits in total connects in 10 of 12 rounds.
Rounds 7,8 & 9..Utter dominance
Overall, Mayweather landed 205 of 441 (46%) total punches to 89 of 485 (18%) for Zab.
Floyd also landed 158 of 322 (49%) power shots to 64 of 177 (36%) for Judah, who managed to land just 25 of 308 jabs (8%).
Scoring: 116-112; 117-111; 119-109.
Floyd Mayweather vs SHARMBA MITCHELL
Mayweather outlanded the overmatched Mitchell 85-31 in total punches after outlanding Gatti 168-41. More impressive than Mayweather’s accuracy (43% of his power shots) was his defense, as Mitchell landed just 11% of his total punches. Mitchell landed 31 punches in less than six rounds- an average of just 5 per round
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Off Topic: Don King says "I loaned Mayweather Jr. $500,000. Give me back my money Floyd!"
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