If Wlad is an ATG?

[Furn]

referee: Genaro Rodriguez | judge: Michael Pernick 118-108 | judge: Adalaide Byrd 117-109 | judge: Stanley Christodoulou 116-110

People remember the fight exactly how it happened and you can't come much closer to losing every single round. Landing a couple of punches in the whole fight does not win a fight nor make it competative.

So did he lose every single round or not ?

NO.

Nor was he hurt once.

your missing the whole point.

If Haye is a bum and is a natural CW how did he win even 1 rd and how did he last even 2 rds ?

No one has given me an answer as to why Wlad showed no aggression or intent, regardless of what Haye did.

[Furn]

Wlad fought a smart fight, he worked out Haye's style and nullified it. How can anyone hate on that. He made Haye look amateurish.

Agreed.

But why fight a smart fight against a guy who you want to smash and is a rubbish fighter and half your size ?

I'm saying that either Haye is a threat to Wlad or Wlad is no good.

I'm asking which is it ?

[Boxing Scene]

So did he lose every single round or not ?

NO.

Nor was he hurt once.

your missing the whole point.

If Haye is a bum and is a natural CW how did he win even 1 rd and how did he last even 2 rds ?

No one has given me an answer as to why Wlad showed no aggression or intent, regardless of what Haye did.

Why? Because Haye fought NOT to get knocked out. I don't know how much more that can be explained.

[SCtrojansbaby]

haye doesnt fight inside
and wlad would have easily tied him up (you saw haye going to the ground to get all that weight off of him)

his only chance at winning was to run away and hope to catch wladimir with something big with the 15 or 20 punches tops he throws. horrible strategy


he showed up for a paycheck
i think he blew a ton of steam until the reality of the situation sank in and he realized (probably during training, at the very latest in that dressing room of his,) that he had zero chance.

That is fine but Haye only threw about 10 punches most rounds and when he threw those punches he usually got hit by Wlad.

Also I don't care what the score cards say Haye lost every single round. The judges were giving him pity rounds towards the end because nothing was happening. They were surprised when Haye actually threw a punch so they thought it scored when in reality he never did.

Haye landed less then 10 clean punches the entire fight.

Also at least with Tyson's opponents they ran then tried to grab. Haye just ran, ran and ran somemore so it was impossible for Wlad to even land a lucky punch and KO him

[Furn]

Why? Because Haye fought NOT to get knocked out. I don't know how much more that can be explained.

This isn't about Haye. Are you saying that Wlad fought an aggressive fight ?

That he showed intent to not just win on points but to hurt and KO his opponent ?

NO he didn't!!! not for 1 second!!!

WHY!!!!!!!

answer that question.

Also I don't care what the score cards say Haye lost every single round. The judges were giving him pity rounds towards the end because nothing was happening. They were surprised when Haye actually threw a punch so they thought it scored when in reality he never did.

Haye landed less then 10 clean punches the entire fight.

Also at least with Tyson's opponents they ran then tried to grab. Haye just ran, ran and ran somemore so it was impossible for Wlad to even land a lucky punch and KO him

Ok lets say for the sake of it thats true, but why didn't he try.

[Superflo777]

This isn't about Haye. Are you saying that Wlad fought an aggressive fight ?

That he showed intent to not just win on points but to hurt and KO his opponent ?

NO he didn't!!! not for 1 second!!!

WHY!!!!!!!

answer that question.

I already told you:

It isn't easy to KO someone who is "fighting" like Haye did, weaving, bobbing, ducking, running around in the ring, going in and out quickly. Haye is a very fast fighter & was extremely cautious himself and not really allowing a good exchange until the last rounds. Fighting defensive is how Emanuel Steward trained Wlad after his defeats against Sanders & Brewster.

[Boxing Scene]

This isn't about Haye. Are you saying that Wlad fought an aggressive fight ?

That he showed intent to not just win on points but to hurt and KO his opponent ?

NO he didn't!!! not for 1 second!!!

WHY!!!!!!!

answer that question.




Ok lets say for the sake of it thats true, but why didn't he try.

I didn't even post that, be careful when you quote people. You put my name next to someone's quote.

[Drunk Punch]

Agreed.

But why fight a smart fight against a guy who you want to smash and is a rubbish fighter and half your size ?

I'm saying that either Haye is a threat to Wlad or Wlad is no good.

I'm asking which is it ?

Because that just isn't Wlad's style is it? Do you think he would change a successful style just to please the crowd for one fight?

If you want to see that kind of fight then hope that Vitali/Haye happens.

[Furn]

Yeh sorry im new to this quoting system.

Anyway punch stats of the fight say.

Wlad threw 376 jabs and 133 power shots.

Not showing me that hes going for the KO regardless of what
Haye is doing.

[SCtrojansbaby]

It takes TWO people to fight. If one guy isn't fighting the other guy can "try" all he wants its still going to look like crap because it takes TWO people to fight.